I dont think he'd cut it in the NRL or in Union, he should stick to Wigan for the next 15 years.

He'd be a bit above average in the NRL. If he goes young and gets a few seasons under his belt he could be a world-beater though.

I wouldn't take him right now, think a lot of Wigan and SL fans are delusional about the blokes talents.

There's only one way to find out if he'd be good here.

i would love him to go to the NRL ,,,, and get smashed every week he's the best we have over here but over there like many of you have said just above average

I heard the exact same thing said about Ellis and he has gone well. As long as he can catch a bomb and chime into the line to take a reverse pass in the middle then he will have the attributes of a star NRL fullback.

The full back position is probably the most talented and strong position in Aussie RL. He definately wouldn't start ahead of:
Billy Slater, Melbourne
Brett Stewart, Manly
Darius Boyd, Saints
Kevin Locke, New Zealand
Matt Bowen, North Queensland
Kurt Gidley, Newcastle
Nathan Merrit, Souths
Ben Barba, Canterbury
Anthony Minichiello, Sydney
Lachlane Coote, Penrith
Jarryd Hayne, Para (although he has been playing 6)
Josh Dugan, Canberra

Would he get in ahead of the others i've not even mentioned? Possibly; possibly not.

He's a great broken/open field runner. He's extremely dangerous near the try-line. He has good hands and stays calm under the high ball. His defence is only okay. His decision making is naive and raw. His passing is poor. He is a bit of a 5h!t. Overall he is an exciting, dangerous, okay RL player.

Winterstein was first choice on the wing last season at the Broncos, this year he joined the Cowboys and played right centre while Tate was out and then got injured himself and was out for the year.
Hoffman has been great for the Broncos but now he's injured and Gerard Beale has done a great job.

Shame for the Broncos - Beale has been a good deputy, but Hoffman was on fire before his injury.

people dont boo him because he plays for wigan they boo him because hes a horrible little scrote

I suppose some do yes but to be fair to him he has cleaned his act up since the CC final.

And when the 4 Nations start let's see if all England fans can get behind the lad,I am not holding my breath.

I agree but we need to get behind the lads no matter who they play for,hell even if the seventeen played for Wigan I would still get behind them.

Four tries in Englands first game of the 4N. Cant really ask more and had some really skillfull moments. I know Wales are not the greatest team, but it will be interseting next week at Wembley.

Wont it just...spirit of '90 all over again