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| I think Gutterfax's idea about the hundred quid is absolutely brilliant and I'd go for it. I've got 2 Chp clubs within 20 minutes and i'd definately be up for that. In fact, it's such a good idea I think you should contact the RFL about it.
I'm not the Championships biggest fan but if I had to put a hundred quid upfront and be allowed into any game id do it in a shot, simply to fill up some sundays as wire dont exactly play many sundays.
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"=#FF0000=#FF0000What would the response be to a Championship weekender? Something like Magic, but held at 2 venues like Leigh/Widnes, on 2 days...with a 2 day ticket costing no more than 30 quid?
I understand the lack of funding for lower division clubs and the apathy that the RFL may feel towards them, but if they want Superleague full of English players, these clubs are where the players of the future will cut their teeth=#FF0000. The RFL need to centralise the marketing for CH and CH1....allocate resources, negotiate bulk advertising rates with the local rags (most are cntrally owned by only 2 publishers) employ a PR company to act on behalf of the clubs....all of this isn't rocket science, it makes good business sense. Superleague needs a strong second and third division......clubs like Leigh and Fev to name just 2 have strong community based histories and this should be key in the creation of sustainable clubs at the lower level. Sugar daddies are all well and good, but getting the community to buy into a club is far more secure in the long run. I understand that there is only a finite amount of money available, but to use it centrally would get a bigger bang for their buck.......more initiatives like Oldhams free entry to games are needed......there is no reason why teams like Leigh or Halifax shouldn't be running at 5k average gates again...it just takes a little effort and a constant campaigns...'"
Very poor I would guess
Something I have been arguing about for a few years now , the RFL do have the money , they offer it to us with strings attached , I'd rather they actually spend it on us than give it to us in a vain attempt for us to find a ' benefactor ' , which just isn't going to happen without P and R
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| Quote Dico="Dico"I think Gutterfax's idea about the hundred quid is absolutely brilliant.'"
If I were Bazza...that would have made my signature 
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| If you were bazza your mum would be your dad and fanny would be your aunt.
Oh, and you'd be a yorkshire man
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| Quote spooneryork="spooneryork":( Looking at todays Championship 1 crowds made very grim reading, South Wales, Workington & Doncaster all had sub 500 crowds, Oldham had a respectable 800+ but the biggest worry is that runaway leaders Hunslet who are in Blistering form and have been all season could only get 537 to watch a pulsating encounter against York RL on a lovely summer day. How can we improve Championship 1 crowds??'"
Sadly, the vast majority of people in Doncaster are not interested in watching Championship or Championship One RL.
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| This can't be true – Championship 1 is the only division where there's Something To Play For. And we know from multiple threads in the past that it's [ionly[/i the possibility of playing for a promotion spot that attracts crowds.
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| I think a lot of it is the cost. £12 to see a game. For a team that is around non league standard in football its £7.
If you look at a lot of grounds most of them are the quality of non league grounds. Ok Doncaster, gateshead and hunslet have good stadiums.
It also doesnt help having massive gaps in the fixture list.
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| Quote dids858="dids858"I think a lot of it is the cost. £12 to see a game. For a team that is around non league standard in football its £7.
If you look at a lot of grounds most of them are the quality of non league grounds. Ok Doncaster, gateshead and hunslet have good stadiums.
It also doesnt help having massive gaps in the fixture list.'"
Hornets' ground is better than most in SL, too.
Really don't think ticket price is the main reason. Near me, it's £13 to watch Histon United in the conference (and £14 to watch Cambridge, also in the conference). Histon's "stadium" is capacity 3000 odd, comparable to plenty of lower division RL grounds. RL teams play considerably fewer games than non-league football clubs, so the total cost over a season is still quite a bit less.
As a thought experiment - if Hunslet (or any other C1 club) had free admission for a game, what difference do you think it would make to the crowd? I think you'd still see less than 1000 people there.
I don't think you can really apply the same solution to all of those clubs. The problem at say Hunslet, Swinton or Rochdale (it seems to me) is one of long-term decline; most of their fans seem to be people who were introduced to RL several decades ago and the problem is how to reconnect to the local community. Even the "expansion" clubs - Skolars, Gateshead, S. Wales don't have the same issues when it comes to building a fanbase. Most people currently watching Skolars are people who play RL (& their families) and/or people from a RL background who live in the south east. Most people watching S.Wales are (I suspect) people who watch Rugby Union in the winter.
Agree that the fixture list situation really does no favours to Championship 1 clubs.
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| Quote JonM="JonM"Hornets' ground is better than most in SL, too.
Really don't think ticket price is the main reason. Near me, it's £13 to watch Histon United in the conference (and £14 to watch Cambridge, also in the conference). Histon's "stadium" is capacity 3000 odd, comparable to plenty of lower division RL grounds. RL teams play considerably fewer games than non-league football clubs, so the total cost over a season is still quite a bit less.
=#FF0000As a thought experiment - if Hunslet (or any other C1 club) had free admission for a game, what difference do you think it would make to the crowd? I think you'd still see less than 1000 people there.
I don't think you can really apply the same solution to all of those clubs. The problem at say Hunslet, Swinton or Rochdale (it seems to me) is one of long-term decline; most of their fans seem to be people who were introduced to RL several decades ago and the problem is how to reconnect to the local community. Even the "expansion" clubs - Skolars, Gateshead, S. Wales don't have the same issues when it comes to building a fanbase. Most people currently watching Skolars are people who play RL (& their families) and/or people from a RL background who live in the south east. Most people watching S.Wales are (I suspect) people who watch Rugby Union in the winter.
Agree that the fixture list situation really does no favours to Championship 1 clubs.'"
As I said earlier
Marketing is the key , but the clubs have neither the money or the knowhow of where to start
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| Quote tb="tb"This can't be true – Championship 1 is the only division where there's Something To Play For. And we know from multiple threads in the past that it's [ionly[/i the possibility of playing for a promotion spot that attracts crowds.'"
... but the fact remains that the public of Doncaster seem dis-interested.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Rugby league isn't a good enough product to be any more than a very minor sport over here.
If you watch the average game you would do well to avoid abstract boredom. The refereeing is awful, the standards are awful (Worse at the level the OP is on about) and it's all so stale and dull.
Compare with the NRL and it's a billion miles away.'"
I think your mistaking Rugby League with soccer.
However, I live 2 miles from the Dewsbury ground and you really wouldn't know they existed if you weren't a league fan already.
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