Is that what counts as an insult these days, wow an ever shrinking list of what isn't an insult - what a monotone world we now live in.

Copy and paste to micro quote. Makes it quick and easy to get the point across.


When did I say it was easy?
You've argued a lovely little strawman there.
What I said was that it's not an issue for football fans on the same wages as us. I know loads of Hull City fans that travel all around the country to watch their club. It's not that it's easy; it's that they don't moan about travel and just see it as part of supporting their club.

The problem in rugby league is that it's been so easy for so long that anything more than traveling outside your back yard is seen as too hard. Fans have been spoilt, especially the West Yorkshire clubs who have been able to get to (at times) 6 away games within 30 minutes.

It's a mindset that needs to change if we are to grow as a sport out of our tiny heartlands.


I fail to do nothing.
The issues for Toronto do not affect anyone other than Toronto. Playing some games away from Toronto is not ideal FOR THEM, but that's their issue. Playing the odd game on the road has never been an issue. I think the issue at Lamport will need addressing eventually for them to be more successful, add I think it will inevitably be. But I don't think the issues are as big as you think. They certainly aren't an issue for anyone else in the game but Toronto, who have quite clearly known this and planned for it from the off.


Do I think a club in Liverpool (on the doorstep of about 5 academies) should be held to the same standard as a club thousands of miles away from any current player development in terms of importing players? Of course they shouldn't. If you want to kill the project now, then that would be the easiest way to do it.

Why should Liverpool get the advantage of being on the doorstep of loads of rugby league academies being on their doorstep to fill their squad?

As for the cup - get real.
Would Wakefield be in the cup if they had to pay a £500k bond? Of course not. Neither would any club. It's a joke. Nothing to do with the club at all and quite desperate of you to try and use that as a reason.


That's something for the league to discuss. If the Canadians and Americans are to run academies in the same light as current SL clubs (which I doubt they will to start with because they won't be ready), they can always share the same flight to make logistics simpler. These are not impossible issue to overcome.

You do know what an insult is, don't you?
It doesn't bother me that you have stooped to that level. It's more a reflection on yourself that you have had to resort to that than actually offer an argument. It makes you seen a bit simple.
(I'm not saying you are simple, but you're giving that impression by acting like that)

I bet the nights fly by in their house.

A bit too intelligent for you, was it? Could just spend the time posting insults instead like you? Not sure how that makes you better...

I'm pretty simple thats true but at least I can get my cave man message across in a lot less words than you.

At least somebody gets it.

It seems to be a case of "here's my opinion, if you don't like it you're wrong; if you try arguing with it, you're a low life" on here.

I'll give it to wrencat, at least he's trying to have a debate. He's allowed to disagree and he's giving reasons why. The rest are just showing their lack of ability to converse with others. They must either live alone or b*tch and moan with their partners without actually listening.

It's not hard to get an empty message across. Nor is it enviable. You do realise that, don't you?

If someone makes a lot of points (wrencat), surely they should expect a lot of responses?
Or is that only applicable to me because t'other one is a Wakefield fan?

Wellsy 6 Wakey 0

Hope little Wellsy and mum are doing well.

Cheers.

Due in the next month. Just had another scan today. All is good!

You do realise how incredibly pompous you sound - go change a spark plug in someones Micra and chill a bit.

The level of contradiction here is unbelievable.

First of all, it's the RFL's task to sell tickets for Wembley, the same RFL that have taken us down the N. American route.
I'll gamble that they (the RFL) still dont have a contingency plan for the time when London reach the GF. Just like Catalan getting to Wembley, they just hope / assume that it wont happen.
And, great, we invite more overseas clubs to join "our" league and those additional clubs will only be invited into the cup on the assumption that they wont have the audacity to get to the final - the publicity surrounding Red Stars inclusion, whilst at the same time "excluding" Toronto was a bloody disgrace.
So. we invite a further 2 sides to join, knowing thet they cannot run an academy and cannot enter the "blue ribbon" cup competition, effectively cherry picking just which parts of our game they would like to join - it's fundamentally wrong.

I know there are huge logistical issues, especially with cup and play offs etc but, that is part of what I've been banging on about.

As for their academies, should they ever have them.
When and where will they play or, are they excused because of the prohibitive additional costs in playing any meaningful games and what happens to the big 4/5, who will have no opposition for their own academies, other than playing lower league opposition, which over a period of time will have a negative effect on the quality that makes it through to the first team.

This brings us back to player numbers.

Effectively, for the next 10 + years, these new N. American clubs, while stuffed with cash, are mopping up players from Aus and the UK but will not be in a position to put anything into the player pool for the foreseeable future.

It wouldn't be allowed for clubs over here to do this but, Mr Wood's wet dream can do as it pleases.

Lets assume that in 5/6 years time, we have Toronto, New York, Catalan, Ottowa and Toulouse all competing in SL, having replaced 4 of the existing clubs, who themselves would no longer be able to run full academies and reserve sides.

There is zero evidence that any TV deal would be enhanced by their inclusion, although if they dont take a slice of TV cake, that may mean more for the surviving UK sides - maybe this is part of the "masterplan"

so why are we so desperate for their inclusion - it will at best, reduce the game in the UK and at worst, thoroughly destroy it.