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Quote: wrencat1873 "You cant run a competition on "it depends" that is just nonsense.Although there does have to be discression in certain circumstances, there also has to be a set of rules laid down, which form the basis of any competition.
One of the gripes that many people have with SL is the perceived closed shop and the imbalance in the treatment of certain clubs (not just Bradford btw)'"
Every competition is run on an ‘it depends’ basis. Any competition which ties its own hands and deals with situations which are blatantly different in the same way is just damaging itself.

And yes the RFL have rules set down. They are following those rules.

Quote: wrencat1873 "What do you think the outside world think of us (the ones that actually notice) ?'"
They don’t care, the bleating of a minority of vested interests makes next to no impact on them.

It seems very strange that you are demanding Bradford be relegated, why not Wakefield aswell then?

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Sheffield have released a statement saying they will not be taking part in any "mini" licencing round.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Unlike SL ,this thread is not a closed shop, feel free to have your twopenneth
Er, that's precisely what I did, but thank you for so kindly granting me permission to make further posts, I can't tell you how grateful I am.
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Quote: Starbug "]

Quite correct , but as has been pointed out , if they are , then it puts the whole of principle of ' Licencing ' to question

Thats why they are going to use the Championship Clubs as the ' fall guys ' and it stinks

AGAIN'"


There are no fall guys. If a club put in a manifestly better application, but were refused despite their application being a far better prospect than Bradford, then they would be a fall guy.

You are not thinking straight. Either there is a better bet for SL than Bradford, or there isn't. This does not put the whole priociple of "licencing" in question, on the contrary, it is the whole firkin point of licencing, to get the best 'applicant'.

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Quote: Mild Rover "I'm focussing on the issue at hand. And it's hardly like I'm pushing some spurious or irrelevant detail.

Licences are awarded based on assessment of Business Management, Facilities, Finance, Commercial/Marketing/Community and Playing Strength/Performance. It's a huge facet of licensing and it seems for SL clubs there is no minimum standard. Something of an issue IMO.'"
But you are also arguing that by definition of it being a Newco Bradford don’t have a licence at the moment and this process would involve the RFL granting a new one. If by that definition Bradford are a newco, then Bradford haven’t shown any lack of skill in those departments, another different club did. Surely you can accept it would be wrong to remove Bradfords licence for what another, different club did?

Or, Bradford are the old club, which is keeping its licence having been bought and carrying on.


Quote: Mild Rover "A Championship club that had been insolvent since 2008 could not apply for a licence in the current round.'"
Yet they were before, as Widnes did, then they weren’t in the last round (and this stopped 0 clubs who were eligible applying) and then they were again. Why only this time the outrage?
Quote: Mild Rover "Okay, so there are no rules and this would merely be an obvious breach of principle (perhaps not from your POV, as you seem reconciled with the idea/fact that licensing was always all about pragmatism rather than principle). So we have a system with neither rules nor principles. That can only be a good thing. I mean, is it any wonder the RL family is so dysfunctional?'"
There are rules, just not rules which make us make a decision that everybody seems to accept would lead us to a conclusion nobody seems to think is for the best.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "There are no fall guys. If a club put in a manifestly better application, but were refused despite their application being a far better prospect than Bradford, then they would be a fall guy.

You are not thinking straight. Either there is a better bet for SL than Bradford, or there isn't. This does not put the whole priociple of "licencing" in question, on the contrary, it is the whole firkin point of licencing, to get the best 'applicant'.'"


No , the WHOLE FIRKIN POINT OF LICENCING IS WE SHOULDNT BE HAVING A MID LICENCE PERIOD APPLICATION PROCESS YOU FIRKIN NUMPTY

WE ARE BECAUSE YOUR FIRKIN USELESS CLUB MADE A FIRKIN MESS OF HAVING A LICENCE IN THE FIRST FIRKIN PLACE

HTH

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Quote: a.n Other "Sheffield have released a statement saying they will not be taking part in any "mini" licencing round.'"

Do we know if they were asked to?

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Quote: Kosh "Do we know if they were asked to?'"


Within the criteria , they are/were as entitled to do so as much as Fev and Leigh

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Quote: Starbug "No , the WHOLE FIRKIN POINT OF LICENCING IS WE SHOULDNT BE HAVING A MID LICENCE PERIOD APPLICATION PROCESS YOU FIRKIN NUMPTY

WE ARE BECAUSE YOUR FIRKIN USELESS CLUB MADE A FIRKIN MESS OF HAVING A LICENCE IN THE FIRST FIRKIN PLACE

HTH'"


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Quote: Starbug "Quite simply who might be available to replace the Bulls should not be part of the decision of wether the Bulls retain a licene

Issue 1 ,the Bulls have shown gross missmanagement and brought the game into disrepute , does that disrepute deserve a loss of licence? That is the 1 st issue

Issue 2 , if the Bulls lose their licence, then and only then should the issue of who gets tgeir licence be decided

The RFL are going to use the supposed failings of Championship Clubs as the reason for Bradford to remain in SL, and that is fundamentally WRONG

The RFL executives are well paid, it is their decision, they should not be trying to deflect the responsibilty onto other people at Championship Clubs'"


Nail. On. Head.

To use a real world analogy, its like having an employee who has committed gross misconduct but deciding to delay a decision on sacking him/her until you have interviewed potential replacements. If there's nobody better qualified or more experienced who applies then he keeps his job, despite his gross misconduct.

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Quote: Starbug "No , the WHOLE FIRKIN POINT OF LICENCING IS WE SHOULDNT BE HAVING A MID LICENCE PERIOD APPLICATION PROCESS YOU FIRKIN NUMPTY '"

Awww, don't take on so!
Its me who's patting you on the head sunshine , you made quite the most ridiculous statement of this whole sorry mess , the fact you tried to pull some grammar just makes you more pathetic , you admit you dont understand the point I am making , that just adds to the impression of your stupidity

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Quote: Derwent "Nail. On. Head.

To use a real world analogy, its like having an employee who has committed gross misconduct but deciding to delay a decision on sacking him/her until you have interviewed potential replacements. If there's nobody better qualified or more experienced who applies then he keeps his job, despite his gross misconduct.'"



Hmmm. Please list OK Bulls Ltd.'s "gross misconduct" as to why they should not hold a licence, and I'll give that some thought.

You do actually know that BBHL, ie the people who were running it ie Hood and the former board, are no longer there don't you? Your analogy doesn't work, because neither Omar Khan, Gerry Sutcliffe nor OK BUlls Ltd were at any time in the employ of the oldco. And the people who were (principally the players, but also the rest of the retained staff, and the coaching staff) are absolutely not, on any view, the persons who did any "gross misconduct", if anybody did.

Your analogy fails as you are desperate to punish the people whose fault it is not, because you can't punish the people whoever they may be whose fault it is, but your are being unfair.

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Quote: Starbug "...you made quite the most ridiculous statement of this whole sorry mess , the fact you tried to pull some grammar just makes you more pathetic , you admit you dont understand the point I am making , that just adds to the impression of your stupidity'"


Awww bless.

I pulled the grammar point as the statement you made is a simple [inon sequitur[/i. Thus a non-point.

The thing is, you make so many incomprehensible or stupid points, it's hard to know which particular one you are now on about. If you tell me what your killer point is, I'll give it my best shot.

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Quote: Derwent "Nail. On. Head.

To use a real world analogy, its like having an employee who has committed gross misconduct but deciding to delay a decision on sacking him/her until you have interviewed potential replacements. If there's nobody better qualified or more experienced who applies then he keeps his job, despite his gross misconduct.'"


Good analogy. Any Championship side that gets involved in this farce deserves all they get. Don't legitimise it!

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