FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > England squad named
241 posts in 17 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
EHW
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner8627
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Loyal Leeds Fan "Some great suggestions guys, though I don't think Ricky Bibey is international class.'"


he has achieved more in his career than Eorl Crabtree has, for example.

EHW
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner8627
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Charlie Sheen "I wouldn't have Ablett or Sinfield in there. Apart from that it seems a reasonable squad given the players he had available. You have to remember that this squad is missing about 8 or 9 players who are either injured or not available.

RL fans in this country are a major reason the game will never reach its potential. The same fans who are now calling for McNarmara's head are the same ones who wanted Tony Smith gone, I wonder who most fans would rather have in charge now?'"


Tony Smith was an abject failure too, even more so than McNamara can ever be IMO.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6268No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2015Jul 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Tony Smith is a coaching god..... just saying like

Him
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14970No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2021Nov 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I'm usually one who defends coaches and especially the England/GB coach from calls to go but, Jesus, he's not helped himself with that squad.
I could almost understand it if he'd kept the same squad as last year or at least only players named in the elite squad earlier this year in an attempt to get some continuity. But he hasnt. So if you're going to bring players in from outside the squad then there is no excuse to play players who are severely out of form and no excuse to not bring in players in form.

Sinfield has not been playing well enough to warrant a place in the game day squad. Ablett is not a centre, does well there for Leeds as a backup and I'd have no problem with him in the larger squad as backup for SR and centre but not first choice centre.
Peacock hasn't played well enough to warrant a starting place, possibly a bench spot.
I don't mind the selection of Hall, Burrow & JJB. Hall is a top class winger and is still playing well in a poor Leeds team. Burrow adds speed and evasion around the ruck off the bench. JJB adds some speed in the backrow and a high work rate.
Why no Brough, Westwood, Goulding or even Bridge?

The team should have been something like:

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Goulding/Bridge/Pryce/Cudjoe
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Chase/Pryce
7. Brough
8. Mossop
9. Roby
10. Crabtree
11. Westwood/Tickle
12. Hock
13. O'Loughlin

14. Burrow
15. Carvell
16. Peacock
17. Tickle/JJB

RankPostsTeam
International Star1649No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



westwood pulled out didnt he?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner29214No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: CM Punk "Ablett over Goulding is the biggest joke of the year.'"


d040.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Saddened! "

The Exiles game is going to become increasingly an England 'B' side anyway, due to the number of players in the NRL who won't come over for the game. Graham, Burgess (Times at least one, possibly two), Ellis, Widdop and Reid should all be in the 13. So one could argue we could take out 5 of the 6 Leeds players there. With the caps going the way they are within a few years I wouldn't be surprised at all if there were 20+ Englishmen in the NRL.

What we can't do is pick average players considered to be on 'form' just because they are playing for the team at the top of the league

So suppose that some of the aussie contingent are injured when we come around to crucial games, would it not be better to "blood" players for the future now?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10530
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: EHW "Tony Smith was an abject failure too, even more so than McNamara can ever be IMO.'"


Really? He had a disapointing world cup in 2008, but he coached his team to 3-0 series whitewash the year before. If you look at the squad Smith has available in 2008, it had the likes of Paul Sykes, Lee Smith, Ade Gardner and Mark Calderwood with Gleeson playing stand off. With the team we had available its a wonder we got out of the group stage. I'm convinced that he would've managed to get more out of last years TN squad than McNamara did. Given the choice between Smith and McNamara, its a no-brainer really, Smith everytime.

I won't critisise McNamara too much, he's clearly passionate about the job and given that he took the job when nobody else wanted it, and as far as I know nobody else is willing to do it then I think he deserves a fair chance.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1016No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2013Oct 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



how sinfield is in before brough is beyond me, didnt this brainless coach watch last years tri nations final, where our kicking game was non existant, looks like we are going for the same game plan again, we will never beat the aussies without one, thats why the best english kicker in the game brough should have played, doesnt really matter if we beat the exiles or not when it comes to the world cup if he persists with sinfield as our kicker weve no chance. as for the others how peacock and ablett are in is laughable, what message does that send out to the aussies and kiwis other than a joke.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1133
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: goodie "how sinfield is in before brough is beyond me, didnt this brainless coach watch last years tri nations final, where our kicking game was non existant, looks like we are going for the same game plan again, we will never beat the aussies without one, thats why the best english kicker in the game brough should have played, doesnt really matter if we beat the exiles or not when it comes to the world cup if he persists with sinfield as our kicker weve no chance. as for the others how peacock and ablett are in is laughable, what message does that send out to the aussies and kiwis other than a joke.'"


I don't think McNamara did watch last years Tri Nations final. He was probably at the Four Nations final instead.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10530
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: goodie "how sinfield is in before brough is beyond me, didnt this brainless coach watch last years tri nations final, where our kicking game was non existant, looks like we are going for the same game plan again, we will never beat the aussies without one, thats why the best english kicker in the game brough should have played, doesnt really matter if we beat the exiles or not when it comes to the world cup if he persists with sinfield as our kicker weve no chance. as for the others how peacock and ablett are in is laughable, what message does that send out to the aussies and kiwis other than a joke.'"


I don't really disagree. However, look at the game before the final against NZ, our kicking game Sinfield's inparticular was excellent, and in comparison NZ and Benji Marshall's was poor. Thats because our forwards laid a platform and we were kicking the ball from good field position. Where as in the final our forwards were dominated and we were kicking he ball from poor field position. I agree our kicking game has been poor over the years but its not as simple as just picking players with good kicking games, Sinfield and Brough both have very good kicking games and have proven that time and time again for their clubs playing behind a good set of forwards who lay a platform and provide good field position. England's problem is despite the myth of having the worlds best pack the pack have failed to get the better of the opposition time and again. Yes their stats are comparable to the Aussies but their all round play such as off ball running, speed, and technique is nowhere near that of the Aussie forwards.

RankPostsTeam
International Star11412No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2021Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Agree with Charlie Sheen, whoever played in the halves for England against the Aussies in the last 4 Nations Final would of struggled as the forwards got well beaten and the Aussies put excellent pressure on whoever got the ball on the last tackle, Brough wouldn't of faired any better, hell you could of put Lockyer and Thurston in and they too would of struggled. Its also a carbon copy of what is happening to Sinfield most weeks at Leeds, the last time the pack played really well and dominated things, Catalans at Home, Sinfield was great with the boot, and we scored 3 tries that came from his kicking. Put him behind a good performing pack and Sinfield will play well.

241 posts in 17 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
241 posts in 17 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.99951171875:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
20m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Stu M
14
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63276
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40810
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5779
Recent
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
fanstanningl
525
Recent
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
BP1
4055
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Clickin'knee
4
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
11
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
194
2m
New Kit
Wires71
71
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2612
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40810
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63276
3m
Getting a new side to gel
Clickin'knee
4
3m
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
4m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
4m
Salford
rubber ducki
61
4m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
50
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Clickin'knee
4
TODAY
Fixtures
Deadcowboys1
13
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,672 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
20m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Stu M
14
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63276
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40810
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5779
Recent
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
fanstanningl
525
Recent
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
BP1
4055
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Clickin'knee
4
Recent
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
11
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
194
2m
New Kit
Wires71
71
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2612
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40810
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63276
3m
Getting a new side to gel
Clickin'knee
4
3m
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
4m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
4m
Salford
rubber ducki
61
4m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
50
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
2
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Trojan Horse
11
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Clickin'knee
4
TODAY
Fixtures
Deadcowboys1
13
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!