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| Starbug, why do you ask for the RFL to be out in the open when people like yourself will make up things regardless?
If we had a book of blank cheques from the RFL as you suggest earlier in this thread do you think we would be in this mess currently.
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| Quote: upthecats " Franchising was brought in to get clubs to 'get their house in order' wasn't it? If so, what relevance has any amount of time before that got?
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I thought the idea of Franchising or Licensing was to select the 14 clubs that had their houses in order.
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| Quote: broster44 "It is a sad time for all Crusaders fans and also the sport in general. But the bottom line is the club is a shambles off the field. Apart from the fact they are in Wales they would not be considered for a franchise. The quote on a previous post of fail to plan, plan to fail is very appropriate. But they are where they are so good luck for the sake of the punters who put their hard earned cash into a blatantly corrupt organisation. But, for me, call it quits and come back when you can do yourselves justice.'"
Completely disagree with this... it seems as though unfortunately the club is being hampered by things that went on under the previous regime.
I think Crusaders have done a lot of good this year and have converted me from a naysayer to someone that would like to see them prosper. They've had some bad attendances but they've shown fantastic potential with some really good crowds.
I hope they come out of this.
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| To quote Ian Roberts from this morning's North Wales 'Daily Post':
'We're still hpoeful of playing rugby(sic) here next season and are negotiating with the Rugby Football League.
We are trying our best, it's a very difficult business to be involved in, especially in the current climate.'
This is a bit different from yesterday's 99% sure. Also Wrexham FC's up for sale but not Wrexham Village.
Do any of our Widnesian contributers know if there's any activity in their club's admin that could indicate whether they're on alert to be parachuted into SL next season?
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| Quote: The Chronicler of Chiswic "To quote Ian Roberts from this morning's North Wales 'Daily Post'
I'm not sure to be honest. There are rumours that certain members of the coaching staff are in Australia at the moment and that they will be joined by members of the board shortly to drum up some interest in players for 2012 should we get the licence, but at the moment everything seems to point to us staying in the Championship for one more season at least. We certainly seem to be recruiting to the £300k cap in place in the Champ.
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| Quote: "However, they expect to stay afloat on payments made to Super League clubs by [sizeboth[/size the Rugby Football League, television companies, sponsors, merchandising and ticket sales.'"
Top class journalism here - Both of five income sources
Not sure I'd put too much value on the rest of what he writes.
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| oh gawd, rlfans is going to explode when they find out that the "Welsh Crusaders" are going to be given a franchise lol. Problem is, the crusaders were fantastic this season, had everything in order. Now "old debts" are rearing their ugly head. Leighton samuel is a scum bag, just ask the celtic Warriors supporters what they think of that .
I think i might just sit back and watch the carnage.
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| So, what’s the plan then?
Are they going to do a London, and set up a new company, walking away from their debts?
I wouldn’t mind being a fly on the wall when the RFL try to get the other clubs CEO’s to back the plan.
Maybe Lewis’s tack will be ‘back the new club or you won’t be considered for a licence in 2012’.
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| haha you guys better start running to the hills!!
NO one respond! then they can bicker between themselves.. it will be a massacre
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| It could be a similar scenario to the voting when London went to the wall. If it doesn't go the way they want the first time, they will have a quiet word and try again
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| Quote: upthecats "We've had the same amount of time as all other clubs currently in Super League.
I'm coming from the angle that there is a rich history and tradition of well over a hundred years of RL in Wakefield and as such have a much firmer standing as opposed to the few years CC hav been in existance. IMO that gives Wakefield a more solid starting point than CC.
The amount of time before licensing is totally relevant as the foundation stones are long laid with clubs like Wakey. Rugby League wasn't created with the inception of Superleague. You can't just magic a solid club up out of dust.
I'm not having a pop at wakey, merely using them as an example while there are question marks over their credentials.
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| Quote: DemonUK "www.walesonline.co.uk/sports/sports-news-round-up/2010/11/04/rugby-league-welsh-crusaders-to-ride-from-crusaders-ashes-91466-27596732/
Advent of licencing, clubs given 3 years. So how do the RFL justify 3 clubs all getting one year each. Celtic Crusaders, then Crusaders, now Welsh Crusaders IF they can find a backer'"
Correct me if I am wrong but haven't the RFL just told Blackpool they cannot do this? Basically saying same club or no club! Yet for Crusaders they'll fully support it...WTF?
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "So, what’s the plan then?
Are they going to do a London, and set up a new company, walking away from their debts?
I wouldn’t mind being a fly on the wall when the RFL try to get the other clubs CEO’s to back the plan.
Maybe Lewis’s tack will be ‘back the new club or you won’t be considered for a licence in 2012’.'"
The difference between now and when the Broncos' holding company folded and reappeared as a new company the next day, is that now there are rules and sanctions to punish it …
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