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Quote: No1_Saints _Fan "Maybe I am mad but I reckon Hull will do well this year and finish in the top 5.'"


You just said challenge the top 2 and named Thorman as a possible key to their success.

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Well the other teams in the top 5 are the only ones to challenge the top two.

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1.Leeds
2.St Helens
3.Catalan
4.Hull
5.Wigan
6.Warrington
7.Hudds
8.Bradford
9.Castleford
10.Hull Kr
11.Celtic
12.Harlequins
13.Salford
14.Wakefield

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1. St Helens
2. Leeds
3. Warrington
4. Catalans
5. Hull FC
6. Wigan
7. Bradford
8. Huddersfield
9. Hull KR
10. Castleford
11. Wakefield
12. Harlequins
13. Salford
14. Celtic

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I predict we'll finish bottom at least then i'll be proven wrong icon_wink.gif

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2009 - year of the Wire

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Quote: -DAZ- "2009 - year of the Wire'"

to be there usual selves and morbidly underachieve

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Quote: -DAZ- "Leeds
Saints
Pies
Catalans
Hull
Hull KR
Shudds
Northern
Wire
Cas
Salford
Wakey
Quins
Celtic'"


I'd laugh if Warrington didn't make the playoffs icon_lol.gif .

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My final league predictions for the 2009 SL season1. Leeds – Possibly the strongest squad of players in the league, the youngsters that come through always seem to be ready to handle SL pace. A powerful pack of forwards which has plenty of mobility and could be even more dominant with the addition of Eastwood and Buderus. In the backs they have plenty of pace along with 2 of the best support players in the league in Webb and McGuire.

2. St Helens – Still a very strong outfit all over the park, with a good mix of youth and experience. The main concern will be how will Mick Potter go, I cant see him changing things greatly as he has stepped into a club with a strong playing staff who know their strengths. Eastmond and Clough should get plenty of game time along with some other good youngsters coming through.

3. Wigan – Look short of props to me but very strong in the back-row, will be interesting to see how their half backs work together and some good outside backs in Carmont and Richards. They also have 2 good hookers in Riddell and McIloram(sp) and with some good youth coming through e.g. both Tomkins, I can see them finishing in the top 4.

4. Catalans – Bit of a suprise package last year but I doubt teams will be taking them so lightly this coming season. Added 2 very good players in Ryles and Bell to what is already a good squad. I expect these to be physically strong in all departments but have some players with real flair in Greeshields and Mogg. Catalan have the squad to be up there, Walters and Pay were 2 great players, will be interesting to see how they go.

5. Warrington – A pretty strong squad of players that look as if they could achieve something but once again will probably not. Doesn’t sound like alot of people have
much confidence in Lowes, but they will make the play-offs.

6. Hull KR – We lacked strength in certain areas last season when injuries hit and we have addressed that. Maybe not spectacular names have been added but important additions to bolster the squad. We have a strong back-row which works well together(when fit), plenty of numbers at prop but we could have major problems if Fisher gets injured. Looks like we will be starting the season with our 2 first choice half backs, lost count of the changes in that position last year. We are safe as houses full-back and some decent pace in the outside backs, really hoping Chev can find his previous international form. With good luck on the injury front this squad can improve on last season.

7. Bradford – I can see their pack carrying them through alot of games this season, already a strong back-row with the addition of Menzies it looks powerful. Possibly we could see Menzies in the centres as they are not as strong in the backs. Not sure if McNamara will have a plan B if things are not going well for them.

8. Huddersfield - Good new players and coach does seem very encouraging, doesn't always work out though. Look strong in the backs but weak in the pack. Im a big fan of Hodgson(sp)at full-back and Hudds will be hoping Carney has turned up with his game face on.

9. Hull FC – Not added alot of strength and look weak in a number of positions, especially at half back and prop. Any injuries in these areas could really hamper the team once again this coming season. Excellent addition of Crocker if his body can deal with the change and will add quality to an already decent back-row. Not sure if Agar has what it takes to become a SL head coach but time will tell. A good start to the season could see them challenge for the play-offs, a bad start could see the loss of the coach and another poor finish.

10. Castleford – Alot of new players have come in and some good ones at that so I am expecting better things from them. Love watching Westerman play and I can only see his game improving with better players around him, not just a player for the future but a huge player for now. Could have problems in the full-back area, not really a recognised one in the squad.

11. Wakefield – Cant see this team achieving much this year but also a team that can produce suprises. Dont really seem to have many outstanding individuals but Kear certainly gets them playing for each other.

12. Harlequins – Again as Wakefield, not many outstanding players on the team sheet but looks like they have some good young lads coming through. Suprised they off loaded Worrincy and Sherrif(sp)who I thought went well for them last year. Must have made one of the biggest suprise signings of any SL team in Nanyn, be interesting to see what B Mac can get out of him.

13. Salford – As all teams coming up it will be a tough first season for them, they have added some good players but also have some decent players from last year. Big things expected from young Myler and possibly Turner backed up by experienced players like Stapleton.

14. Celtic – Cant see them finishing anywhere other than bottom.

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Saints
Leeds
Warrington
Wigan
Catalans
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull KR
Hull FC
Wakefield
Harlequins
Castleford
Salford
Celtic

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Looking at these predictions shows what a terrible season it was for us (Hull FC) last year. I remember in 2007 we were tipped by many to win
the whole lot and I remember one person saying that we should be ashamed if we didn't finish top due to to us playing Rovers 4 times. One bad season and going by what the majority are saying we are an outside chance for a play off place.

I think (hope) that alot of people will be proved wrong though. If we keep reasonably healthy we have a good enough squad to challenge the top 4 imo if not the top 2.

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Quote: manu knighted "I think (hope) that alot of people will be proved wrong though. If we keep reasonably healthy we have a good enough squad to challenge the top 4 imo if not the top 2.'"


Was it you who made the bet on here that you would streak if the team never made the top 4 last season, not sure if it was you but Im sure it was an FC fan?

Plus I cant see your team being anywhere near the top 2.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "Was it you who made the bet on here that you would streak if the team never made the top 4 last season, not sure if it was you but Im sure it was an FC fan?

Plus I cant see your team being anywhere near the top 2.'"


icon_lol.gif Yes. I'll make no statements like that this time, although I am reasonably confident.

Top 2 is probably a little out of reach but top 4 certainly isn't imo. On paper we are as good as the likes of Wigan and Warrington.

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Quote: Rupert Pupkin "My final league predictions for the 2009 SL season1. Leeds – Possibly the strongest squad of players in the league, the youngsters that come through always seem to be ready to handle SL pace. A powerful pack of forwards which has plenty of mobility and could be even more dominant with the addition of Eastwood and Buderus. In the backs they have plenty of pace along with 2 of the best support players in the league in Webb and McGuire.

2. St Helens – Still a very strong outfit all over the park, with a good mix of youth and experience. The main concern will be how will Mick Potter go, I cant see him changing things greatly as he has stepped into a club with a strong playing staff who know their strengths. Eastmond and Clough should get plenty of game time along with some other good youngsters coming through.

3. Wigan – Look short of props to me but very strong in the back-row, will be interesting to see how their half backs work together and some good outside backs in Carmont and Richards. They also have 2 good hookers in Riddell and McIloram(sp) and with some good youth coming through e.g. both Tomkins, I can see them finishing in the top 4.

4. Catalans – Bit of a suprise package last year but I doubt teams will be taking them so lightly this coming season. Added 2 very good players in Ryles and Bell to what is already a good squad. I expect these to be physically strong in all departments but have some players with real flair in Greeshields and Mogg. Catalan have the squad to be up there, Walters and Pay were 2 great players, will be interesting to see how they go.

5. Warrington – A pretty strong squad of players that look as if they could achieve something but once again will probably not. Doesn’t sound like alot of people have
much confidence in Lowes, but they will make the play-offs.

6. Hull KR – We lacked strength in certain areas last season when injuries hit and we have addressed that. Maybe not spectacular names have been added but important additions to bolster the squad. We have a strong back-row which works well together(when fit), plenty of numbers at prop but we could have major problems if Fisher gets injured. Looks like we will be starting the season with our 2 first choice half backs, lost count of the changes in that position last year. We are safe as houses full-back and some decent pace in the outside backs, really hoping Chev can find his previous international form. With good luck on the injury front this squad can improve on last season.

7. Bradford – I can see their pack carrying them through alot of games this season, already a strong back-row with the addition of Menzies it looks powerful. Possibly we could see Menzies in the centres as they are not as strong in the backs. Not sure if McNamara will have a plan B if things are not going well for them.

8. Huddersfield - Good new players and coach does seem very encouraging, doesn't always work out though. Look strong in the backs but weak in the pack. Im a big fan of Hodgson(sp)at full-back and Hudds will be hoping Carney has turned up with his game face on.

9. Hull FC – Not added alot of strength and look weak in a number of positions, especially at half back and prop. Any injuries in these areas could really hamper the team once again this coming season. Excellent addition of Crocker if his body can deal with the change and will add quality to an already decent back-row. Not sure if Agar has what it takes to become a SL head coach but time will tell. A good start to the season could see them challenge for the play-offs, a bad start could see the loss of the coach and another poor finish.

10. Castleford – Alot of new players have come in and some good ones at that so I am expecting better things from them. Love watching Westerman play and I can only see his game improving with better players around him, not just a player for the future but a huge player for now. Could have problems in the full-back area, not really a recognised one in the squad.

11. Wakefield – Cant see this team achieving much this year but also a team that can produce suprises. Dont really seem to have many outstanding individuals but Kear certainly gets them playing for each other.

12. Harlequins – Again as Wakefield, not many outstanding players on the team sheet but looks like they have some good young lads coming through.

Suprised they off loaded Worrincy and Sherrif(sp)who I thought went well for them last year.

For the record [iboth[/i were offered new contracts and turned them down. They were NOT offloaded.

Sherrife turned down the clubs offer (Rumoured he has a girlfriend in Bradford)
Worincey chose to go to Bradford on his agent's (Offiah's) recomendation More money on offer we must assume. One in the eye for how junior development will help the smaller clubs unless you are going to put promissing juniors on big money before they have proved themselves


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Over 40% of predictions so far have us (Wire) to finish 3rd! If those figures were repeated on the Wire board by Wire fans there would be howls of laughter at how Wire fans have no idea and are being ridiculously optimistic (again)!

IMO...

1 - Leeds
2 - Saints
3 - wigan
4 - Bradford
5 - Warrington
6 - Hull
7 - Catalan
8 - HullKR
9 - Huddersfield
10 - Castleford
11 - Harlequins
12 - Wakefield
13 - Salford
14 - Celtic

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