Hull, very, very unlucky tonight. Poor video ref decisions cost them.

Hull hard done by, Ablett and JJB have done this far too many times. Big clubs seem to get those decisions to go for them far too often.

Hull aren't a big club?

Leeds find a way to win a tight game. Who'd of thunk it? Last week Thaler gift wrapped the 2 points but no wailing from the faithful.This week the ref and dirty leeds robbed them? Was working so just started to watch game now so after reading both leeds and hull boards I'm expecting lots of contentious calls? Sometimes the best team wins and as fans it's best to just admit it

Honestly don’t think Hull will get the top 4 this year, I’m more worried about Wakey. We only played for 50 mins against them and got the W. They were off the pace tonight as well I thought. They think they are better than they are and all this hysteria about swapping a GF for a CC isn’t doing them any good it’s just piling the pressure on needlessly. I can see Hull finishing 6th and going deep in the cup again.

So, the majority of the match then?

The games we've lost so far this year are Wigan away (granted away for Wigan too!), Cas away and Leeds away. All fixtures that you wouldn't necessarily expect to win anyway. And been off the pace tonight doesn't surprise me as we were missing 7 first team players, 3 of which (Kelly, Houghton, Watts) are very likely our 3 best players. Yet we were off the pace and still had a decent chance of winning the match. It showed that our depth is pretty good.
We'll be up there challenging for top 4. Might not get it because there will be 5 or 6 teams challenging and somebody has to miss out, but we'll definitely be there or there abouts.

FFS, you bottled the Grand Final, get over it already.

I think Hull and cas may well miss out on the 4. When you played us you had everyone available and 2 weeks rest to prepare whereas we had some key injuries and had only been back from oz for about 5 days. Despite that you still struggled to put us away.

As for last night, Hull were hard done to by the chalked off "try" just before half time but we lost because we couldn't defend well enough and didn't offer enough threat in attack in the leeds 20. Maybe excusable with 6/7 of the first choice players missing but disappointing nonetheless

I'm very confident if we can get some bodies back and don't suffer too badly with injuries we will finish above Cas and finish in the GF.

I think the next 5/6 fixtures (Which look good on paper) are the big test for Hull, but we have shown we have the depth, which will be key over Easter.

didn't Leeds have a few missing as well?

Cuthbertson, sutcliffe, keinhorst, ward, peteru? ( I might be missing more )

Or we not allowed to talk about that?

I thought there bench looked very weak, young walker didn't get on either did he?

Hull will be well in the mix.loolking like it could be a real tight battle for the 4 this year between half a dozen teams who look similar level

The touch judge coming on was a strange one but we all bemoan they don't get involved enough? Thought ref was finicky but gave similar penalties against both teams. 2 very strange VR interpretation so can see why the gnashing of teeth on way back home for Hull. I actually thought it was a decent game and BOTH teams had good lads missing. Felt like the 2nd half was all Hull but didn't see any stats? Love em or hate em Leeds are bloody tough side

The flaw in the VR system is having the on field referee dictate the angle that the VR looks at it from. If the on field referee call is a try, the if the camera's were not there, it would be awarded. If he calls no try, it would be disallowed. Its forcing the on field referee to commit, which if he is to do so, then give that decision.

The VR should be used for genuine and realistic uncertainty.

Was Logan offside? Not so sure as if Hicks had called it a try on field when referring to the VR, was there evidence to turn it down?

If "finding a way to win" included Abletts conning of the referee to win a penalty then finding a way to win is then simply cheating. I believe hkr were victim to Abletts cheating a few weeks ago, so you'll understand the frustration it can cause.

Yes.. I remember Ablett impeding Clarkson and ref not asking VR for obvious obstruction then Ablett old manning the ref he could have got to kicker and Shaws try being disallowed by VR. Fine margins and as a fan leaves you fuming but it's history now and 4 points earned by Leeds,they win games other teams cant/don't.Ablett in particular is a real old pro and smart and if Connor for you or maybe Jewitt for us effected the game in same way we'd be chuckling.He must be near end of career but he's still doing a job. Frustrating night for your team and fans.probably get a little light relief tmz teatime?

No one is bothered about Cas this year. Hull will easily finish above you

Regards

King James