FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Intentional Passing into prone players to milk a penalty... |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6767 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
|
| We saw a couple of instances last year where the tackler is injured, they play the ball a metre forward but throw out the pass into the injured player.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 17952 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Sep 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
simpsons/simp006.gif :simpsons/simp006.gif |
|
| Quote: GUBRATS "Ok so while we're discussing cynical cheating , Cas seem to have discovered another , when the opposition full back is taking a high ball rather than run round the oppositions other defenders they push them into the full back , they did this several times on Friday and actually scored off one of these in the second half , should have been a penalty for Leigh'"
When teams surround the FB with "blockers" it's difficult to know what you should do.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 2418 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
74893_1459005583.jpg snaivooladniv eht fo thgim eht eraweb:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74893.jpg |
|
| Quote: wrencat1873 "When teams surround the FB with "blockers" it's difficult to know what you should do.'"
No it's not , you run round them , the rules are simple , as long as the ' blockers ' as you call them are not moving sideways to obstruct the advancing tacklers they are not doing anything wrong , if they do move sideways , the ref will give an obstruction
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 21669 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
62021_1514912988.png [img:12j4q57k]https://i.imgur.com/ayH2ksC.jpg[/img:12j4q57k]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62021.png |
|
| Quote: Judder Man "We saw a couple of instances last year where the tackler is injured, they play the ball a metre forward but throw out the pass into the injured player.'"
What was the outcome Judds?
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4748 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2015 | 10 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
73327_1685730441.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73327.jpg |
|
| Quote: GUBRATS "No it's not , you run round them , the rules are simple , as long as the ' blockers ' as you call them are not moving sideways to obstruct the advancing tacklers they are not doing anything wrong , if they do move sideways , the ref will give an obstruction'"
Except that, refs, both here and in the NRL, hardly ever do. Considering how strict they are with so-called obstruction by dummy runners when a try is being scored, and yet defending side s seem to get way with murder.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 2418 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Mar 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
74893_1459005583.jpg snaivooladniv eht fo thgim eht eraweb:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_74893.jpg |
|
| Quote: moto748 "Except that, refs, both here and in the NRL, hardly ever do. Considering how strict they are with so-called obstruction by dummy runners when a try is being scored, and yet defending side s seem to get way with murder.'"
So it is the refs issue , ive no problem with it , if the refs are going to allow tacklers to push ' blockers ' into the full back then fine we'll have to do it as well
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 24376 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
11400_1493633977.gif :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11400.gif |
|
| mcillorum did it in the grand final 2015. I hate it. its blatant cheating
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 2794 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2013 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2023 | Jun 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
70807_1599340376.jpg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_70807.jpg |
|
| Quote: cas all the way "I fully understand if you are moving in a way of a pass and it hits you but to be stood still and get the ball thrown at you. Shouldnt be a penalty. Its just a way for teams to get out of trouble.'"
True.
Our hooker Liam Hood did it to you last Friday, while it benefitted us, I don't like it.
Refs need to make the call, intentional or not.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 3169 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Mar 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
13707_1295067214.jpg "Arguably the best Rugby League side certainly in the last 40 years!" Phil Clarke.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13707.jpg |
|
| Quote: tad rhino "mcillorum did it in the grand final 2015. I hate it. its blatant cheating'"
Bit him on the ar5e though as they took the 2 points but that gave us a break and chance to have a breather. We looked dead on our feet in that set.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 6767 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
|
| Quote: Cokey "What was the outcome Judds?'"
Penalty every time, I think. Mcllorum did it quite a few times. One instant was a head knock with a blood wound ref should have stopped play but awarded penalty first for obstructing the PTB then stopped play for the injury.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 21669 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2011 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
62021_1514912988.png [img:12j4q57k]https://i.imgur.com/ayH2ksC.jpg[/img:12j4q57k]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_62021.png |
|
| Quote: Judder Man "Penalty every time, I think. Mcllorum did it quite a few times. One instant was a head knock with a blood wound ref should have stopped play but awarded penalty first for obstructing the PTB then stopped play for the injury.'"
Well in that case, the ref got it wrong.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2016 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Nov 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
75357_1559488330.jpeg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75357.jpeg |
|
| Detest it. The dummy half could easily turn around and pass/run the other way.
Goes against the spirit of the game and anyone doing should be told to "play on"!
Also players stopping and looking or shouting at the ref wanting a penalty or holding ten fingers up to say "send him to the bin ref", and diving/feigning injury, oh and arguing with/swearing at the officials.
Come on lads, you aren't Wendyballers but your pathetic gamesmanship is making you look like those pathetic excuse for sportsmen from that sport.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1789 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2016 | 8 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2019 | Nov 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
75357_1559488330.jpeg :d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_75357.jpeg |
|
| Quote: GUBRATS "Ok so while we're discussing cynical cheating , Cas seem to have discovered another , when the opposition full back is taking a high ball rather than run round the oppositions other defenders they push them into the full back , they did this several times on Friday and actually scored off one of these in the second half , should have been a penalty for Leigh'"
I actually dislike the blockers obstructing than the chasers pushing the blockers in the back.
I think a rule should come in that states these blockers are obstructing the chasers if they are just stood there with no intention of playing the ball.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Owner | 10000 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2004 | 21 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2020 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
8202.jpg [url=//www.facebook.com/wellsmotors:2svvs5eg][img:2svvs5eg]//i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd30/wellsy13/Wells%20Motors%20(Signature)_zps67e534e4.jpg[/img:2svvs5eg][/url:2svvs5eg]:8202.jpg |
|
| Quote: Kevs Head "If that's the case the ref should penalise him for offside. That rarely happens - for the simple reason that he's not interfering with play. He's only brought in to play by the ahb making no attempt to pass to his team mate. but throwing at the prone player. It's cynical and, yes, all teams can be coached to do it but it'll make the game worse.'"
I'm sorry, but having just watched the replay again, it was a penalty all day long. He was obstructing the mark, not just in the ruck. He made no effort to move. Houghton literally couldn't pass to the left without going around him (which he shouldn't have to) and couldn't scoot.
Had he laid down and rolled at, he wouldn't have obstructed. You can't just kneel upright on the mark and expect not to get penalised.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1080 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Feb 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
: |
|
| Wellsy - I was making a general point rather than specific to the Trinity game. For what it's worth I've watched the highlights since I posted and I too think that in both incidents the penalties were the right call.
|
|
|
|
|
|