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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark ""fail"? I made short post, I wasn't writing an exhaustive treatise analysing the entire Australian game ffs
I am looking at it from the perspective of the rugby, the standard of play, the quality of the teams, the attendances they get, and the amount of money that the players, especially the top players, can earn. This attracts commits and retains a large proportion of the best and most talented athletes, and in turn the crowds pay to come and watch them, as the quality of the comp is the best there is.

However if you are suggesting that at the same time, NRL clubs would all be run as some profit-making business and their directors all jetting off to their condos in Hawaii, counting their profits - WHY? NRL is no different to any major sport in the world - the attraction for rich people is to own a top club and throw a bunch of money at making it the best or trying to.

Last time I heard, the NRL which runs the game there did not own or run any particular club.

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Quote: Sheldon "Gf why are you bringing Bradford into it? It's irrelevant who FA supports.

If NRL is as small as the picture you paint the surely he has a point and the NRL board has done wonders in getting a tv deal so big.'"

GF is going on about Bradford because he's obsessed with the club - you should have a look at the bilge on RA&B..

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Whilst no one can argue the NRL isn't massive in Oz the two markets are very different. NRL and afl are pretty much on equal footing where as in UK soccer is totally nationally dominant. In Oz the TV stations are desperate for sports content to drive their audience share so pay big money, in UK the fta TV stations have pretty much given up trying to show top level domestic competitions, Oz has only 6 major cities and RL is number one sport in 3 of them. RU in Oz is a joke and no competition to RL unlike in England, ignore gutters he has no idea on the strength of RL in Oz, he is so delusional he thinks S15 is even close to the popularity of NRL even though they can't get on fta, have only 5 clubs and the TV audiences for s15 are smaller than the nrl's U20's competition lol.

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Quote: OzWelsh ""they're off", it should be.

I've had enough of people writing 'there' instead of 'they're' or 'their'. Did you go to school?'"

Know.

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Quote: RED LEAGUE "Yes if we had the Stars they had in their league! Our poxy 1.8 million cap worth of players wouldn't attract anything!'"


Ah, it’s poxy now, a year ago Salford fans would dream of spending up to the cap.

How times & opinions change icon_rolleyes.gif .

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Get a BBC & premier Sports deal similar to the World Cup going and get rid of SKY.
That's one way to get the wider public seeing RL.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Ah, it’s poxy now, a year ago Salford fans would dream of spending up to the cap.

How times & opinions change it was poxy then aswell. If you think about it there at 400 players in the top flight. They are the best 400 players in the country. Some of them will be getting 30-40k a year (the kids even less) The average wage for an RL player is about 70k. Not a bad wage but that’s for someone top 200 in the country in their field. There will be sales people earning much more than that, electricians, plumbers, engineers on way way more than that. There probably aren’t too many professions in this country where the top 200 people in it earn as little as 70k.

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I'd have thought that would apply to most sports in England other than soccer Smokey.

Whilst the country's top people in their professions earn far more than £70K, they don't typically get there in their 20s.

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Quote: Bulliac "GF is going on about Bradford because he's obsessed with the club - you should have a look at the bilge on RA&B..'"

No. I am mentioning Bradford because Bradford have received more RFL help than most other clubs in the 18 years of SL and the fact that the OP is a Bradford fan wanting a "level playing field" is ironic, to say the least.

As for my "bilge" regarding Moore and Whitcut.....what's the latest on that back of a beermat business plan? Have the RFL seen the updated and decent one they requested?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Re the announcement that from the AU$1 billion broadcast revenue that it gets, the NRL will in 2014, "to ensure the long-term viability of NRL clubs", pay them an increased annual funding grant of AU$7.55 million next season (approx. £4.7m per club).

Can't the SL clubs just all join the NRL(UK) and let them run the game?'"

I'm sure Catalans would be confused by playing in the NRL(UK).

And if someone suggests NRL (Europe), they need to remember what the N stands for.

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The NRL is neither National in Australian footprint or in any context of the word!

Bit like "super" league

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Quote: SmokeyTA "it was poxy then aswell. If you think about it there at 400 players in the top flight. They are the best 400 players in the country. Some of them will be getting 30-40k a year (the kids even less) The average wage for an RL player is about 70k. Not a bad wage but that’s for someone top 200 in the country in their field. There will be sales people earning much more than that, electricians, plumbers, engineers on way way more than that. There probably aren’t too many professions in this country where the top 200 people in it earn as little as 70k.'"



I was replying to the Salford poster who has the audacity to bemoan the S.C when until recently he could have only dreamed of reaching those heights.

Also, I appreciate there are many, many people who are on far more money, whilst not even being that good, however, the companies or trades they are in can afford it.

Whereas in RL there are a couple of clubs who get it right, a good few who rely on a rich benefactor, with the rest scrabbling about to stay in the game.

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Interesting article here:

www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/o ... ugby-union

What a difference eight years makes! Possibly not so many RL players moving to RU now.

The figure of around £9300.00 per test paid to ARU players makes me wonder what the figure is for English RL players?
Interesting article here:

www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/o ... ugby-union

What a difference eight years makes! Possibly not so many RL players moving to RU now.

The figure of around £9300.00 per test paid to ARU players makes me wonder what the figure is for English RL players?


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Australian RL players are on 12k pounds one off tests
30k pounds for winning 4 nations or RLWC
18k pounds for each SOO game they play

A kangaroo player could earn an extra 96k pound this season!
Just another example of the big gulf opening up between RL and RU in Australia.


Don't let Gutters see that report, he will be slashing his wrists lol!

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Quote: JB Down Under "Don't let Gutters see that report, he will be slashing his wrists lol!'"

nobody has ever denied Union is a basket case in Australia and doesn't stand up well against League, but in the context of this thread, it has little relevance.
Quote: JB Down Under "Re the announcement that from the AU$1 billion broadcast revenue that it gets, the NRL will in 2014, "to ensure the long-term viability of NRL clubs", pay them an increased annual funding grant of AU$7.55 million next season (approx. £4.7m per club).

Can't the SL clubs just all join the NRL(UK) and let them run the game?'"


The reason the NRL and AFL control the sporting landscape in Australia is because they are the 2 professional codes that dominate in winter scene....there is at least one team sport in the UK that dwarfs the team sports landscape with possible another that is equal in terms of divisional games but ahead in terms of Internationals and public consciousness.
Then there's the question of why would the NRL invest in a competition that would be of no interest to their broadcast partners? St Helens v Leeds at 3am in Sydney isn't going to sell many Holden SUV's!

The RFL and SL is the 2nd biggest draw card on Pay TV in the UK and it is 100% the responsibility of the governing body to cash in on that popularity.

They are currently failing miserably....ergo, you get threads like this.

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