I'd be the first to agree that Ben Cross is an eejit, but that second one is a bit harsh; it was replayed several times on Sky and he looked to be totally focussed on the ball - Orr was brave to hold his ground, but he was always going to come off second best. It didn't look intentional.

To be honest, what I found sickening was McGoldrick's blatant use of the elbow to the Widnes players throat; it was deliberate and intended to harm. The Sky camera caught his little chuckle afterwards too, which won't play well at Red Hall. He should be looking at 2-3 games.

Lets not be stupid. We are having it extremely tough at the moment and the travelling fans is a reflection of that as it is with any side.

When we start to get some positive news for a change or things to cheer for then the numbers will perk up.

Lets face it, If Cas had been a bit smarter, We would have run 70 points in. Daz Clark and Richard Owen were all guilty of not passing when they should of.

Widnes are honestly the worst side i have seen down the lane. They offered absolutely nothing of a challenge really, They scored from a kick, Where Youngquest misjudged the flight. And on one occasion, Richard Owen saved us under the posts. Apart from that, They scored with 20 seconds to go.

There was only going to be one winner heading into the second half.

A drab game, But a win is a win. But at what cost, Danny Orr is injured, McGoldrick will get banned.

well there's 2 positives in that line alone, the win being one of them.

That's the reason I gave mention to the 2007 which was a promotion opportunity and the Widnes fans still didn't turn out in numbers, yet all 3 other teams (2 of which were from a league lower than Widnes and hence experiencing 'tougher' times) did.

I would agree, But, Not while Chase is out.

I don't think the disciplinary panel are allowed to use the Sky footage, are they? Something about it being 'unfair' because not every player cited will have been on Sky. Quite how they square that with some games having a video ref and others not, I don't know.

Slap Clark in the halves to replace the "king of cas" & Milner in to play 9. Orr has an extra week to recover. Job done.

Must.not.bite.

As for yesterday, it was a sad sight but you can hardly blame the fans who are so disenchanted at the moment, whilst prices have never been higher to watch RL.

You may remember the 2500 Widnesians at Cas in 2002, by the way.

I didn't realise that - seems rather foolish to ignore what could be described as the worlds best CCTV footage, given that it's in glorious HD and captured from several different angles.

Either way, McGoldrick is a horrible player who gets away with grubby antics like this on a regular basis; he should be looking at 2-3 games.

I should say that it's only something I've read on here, though from a poster who is usually reliable with such information. I tend to believe it because it sounds like the sort of aboutface reasoning the RFL would employ.

Agree, can't wait to get rid next season hopefully. Brings very little

take no notice pal. He obviously struggles to remember 2008 when we came back to SL and were putrid. aying that, we aint an better now. However from 2008, in 09 we came 7th, so if we can do that, you can. I sympathise with widnes fans, and empathise, it aint fun. Just be patient. There is light, just not this year though.

Daily Mail's view of it ................

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