a tenner to watch england australia would be embarrassing and would just tell the world that the sport values itself at tuppence.

and when the game is dead and you've nothing left to watch on t'telly you will be happy?

£14 to go and watch Wigoon vs Celtic or £20/£40 to watch England vs Australia. I'm there!

Will probably take in the Aus-NZ game at The Stoop too.

If you're not happy don't pay it. Plenty of fans are using the price as an excuse to stay at home. If you're only interested in your club then that's up to you. It's not something I'll ever understand, but there you go.
I'll be going to watch France v New Zealand and I'm expecting to pay around 25 pounds.

It's not the £20 I'm questioning - I think that is pretty reasonable for the stadiums being used, it's the charging of up to £50 in other areas.

I just hope we won't see two pack ends and then a half empty East Stand which the cameras at Wigan focus on.

Just to clairfy though it's only £40 in the middle of the east stand, it's £30 and then £25 the further away from the touchline you get.

Maybe I just look at this wrong though. I'm a fan that's been to Harlequins, Catalans, Celtic etc for expensive weekends away this year and had a wallet battering play off run until this weekend. I suppose it's different for those who's season ended earlier.

Whoa!!!

Hold on there.

I didn't sell the game to TV for peanuts!!!

I have been to enough test matches, internationals, tour games etc over my years on the planet.

This four nations does not excite me simply because England are STILL NOT CAPABLE OF WINNING!!!!

If Aus v Kiwis was on at the windy place then I would consider that as I know it would be great entertainment.

Everything else is a foregone conclusion (see the odds the bookies give, and they ususally are not far offf the mark) so why waste all that effort when others in the game can't be bothered to bring the game in this country into the 19th, yes 19th century!!!

That's how far behind the Aussies we are!!!

Why are we as a sport so bothered about how the seating looks on television?
I can't think of another sport where fans talk about the attendance before the actual game.
Think back to the England v Argentina rugby union game at Old Trafford this summer. half the stadium empty and little to no atmosphere. Any mention of that in the media? No!
The RFL must have done their homework with regard to ticket sales and sponsorship and I'd be surprised if the Four Nations makes a loss.

Personally I'm looking forward to a great tournament and a weekend in Toulouse

The non-England games are in London and France. Would the RFL help out with travel costs too?

A few years back this was the case at the Galpharm where the middle by the half way line was pretty empty but the thing is these are usually the seats given away for competitions, and games since these areas have been the fullest often filled by those who bought the cheaper end seats but moved inwards if the stewards have been slack.

Not sure it's right to compare a global sport that is probaly only second behind football in terms of popularity in the country with a predominantly two county minority sport.
I doubt even the RFL would be so daft as to play an international in Bristol.


That's the idea. Who knows in two years time it could be Wales taking on Australia in Cardiff and the Kiwis at Newport.

And the other tv options were what exactly?

England are capable of winning, its one game against the other sides and we have seen in the past that england are capable of beating the aussies and kiwis in one off games.
Besides which it is a massive problem if even hard core fans cant be d just you might get hammered. Wales and England RU have had whole decades when they've been getting hammered but still turned up in massive numbers. Maybe league fans arent as pasionate about the sport as is claimed. Thats not a crime but lets not kid ourselves a sport CAN die and the fans are part of that.

well my point is that they dont talk about attendances because they know they have a redoubt of probably irreducible support they can go back to and the occasionally badly supported game does no real harm. we seem on the brink of endless self doubt where even the most league of areas and fans have to be constantly cajoled into supporting the sport.
Yeah i hope the authorities grasp the point that giving the pacific and european an entry into the four nations instantly creates a 1000x more credibility and focus. Personally i think it should be a 6 nations with both tournys providing qualification every two years. I don't understand why that hasnt already been decided. Even if its png and france every time we suddenly have 4 credible international tournaments.

I would say the opposite. It's precisely because we are so passionate that it fuels our constant and often irrational moaning about our sport. Only the Premier League in football matches the quality of product on display and even then if you did a deconstruction of the volume of entertainment Super League would win hands down. There no other sport provides so many thrills, skills, feats of strength, resilience or displays of fortitude yet we find endless ways of complaining about it and dragging it down. Hence, we'll find all sorts of excuses not to go and support our sport when really we have a lot less reason to.

I was talking about rugby league as a whole, not just the international game.
I'd imagine a Six Nations tournament will only happen after the gap between the competing nations has been significantly bridged. Let's make sure the Pacific and European Cups both succeed before we move onto exapnding the Four Nations.