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ill repeat for the union troll, succesful sports dont lie like union does!

so how many watch the soccer WC - 4 trillion?
or the cricket world cup ? trillions?
or the NFL?

seriously union can lie all it wants to, but its world cup isnt a big event.

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33 million watching the union WC final ...

RU calculator




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Quote: dally messenger "33 million watching the union WC final ...

RU calculator


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Quote: dally messenger "33 million watching the union WC final ...

RU calculator


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You and your little mates have fun. I am off out to meet real people and watch the footie, have a laugh and sink a few beers.

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33 million watching the union WC final ...

RU calculator


= 4 billion!

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I'm drinking beer, I have a wife and I'm waiting for the footy.

That's my opinion.

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4 billion was the total viewing figure for all the games.

Something rugby league can only dream of!

22million people in th UK watched the final alone. 22million! I remember going to the pub at 6am to watch it, it was already packed out, there were thousands of people in the streets, beeping horns etc. Was a right carnival atmosphere and the game hadnt even kicked off and I dont live in a rugby union or league town.

When the rugby league world cup is on, no one cares in the UK icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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so if one of the finalists can only muster 22 million, where'd the rest come from?

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Quote: gutterfax "The article says Real have sold 1,000,000 ronaldo shirts.......doesn't mention anything else and therefore proves nothing other than Real have sold 1,000,000 Ronaldo shirts.'"


Have you got a link to this Adidas announcement then? I'm not being funny but it sounds like one of the most unbelievable things I've ever heard. I'm assuming you were talking about worldwide shirt sales.

Yes the link I provided highlights the fact that over a million Real Madrid shirts have been sold since the summer, and that's just the ones with Ronaldo's name on the back, and the figure is just for Madrid itself. Being the biggest supported club in Spain, and perhaps the most famous worldwide, it's not unlikely that they sell millions more across the country and throughout the continent, as I've seen loads of Real shirts everywhere I've been in Spain and the rest of Europe.

But of course it doesn't end there. Real have the Latin American market to play with, which includes Spanish America and the massive Hispanic population of the USA. Added to that China and Japan, where Real are a household name.

I imagine the British Lions have sold a lot of shirts, but their market really is restricted to the population of UK and Ireland. Including ex pats and other RU fans around the world I'd say that would be no more than 100 million people.

You mentioned that the Lions sold more shirts than Madrid, Manchester United, and Barcelona combined. They are probably the 3 biggest football clubs in the world at this moment in time. I simply cannot believe this to be true.

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Quote: eels fan "so if one of the finalists can only muster 22 million, where'd the rest come from?'"


mars.

union is as big there as it is in most of earth

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33 million watch the final >

RU calculator >

4 billion.

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Quote: eels fan "so if one of the finalists can only muster 22 million, where'd the rest come from?'"


He can't answer that.

Actually, he'd have trouble answering the most basic question. He'd lose a game of Scrabble to a biscuit.

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Quote: gutterfax "Unless you can find documented proof that says the "company line" is a lie, I suggest you tread carefully. '"


And I suggest you get a catscan to see if there's anything bigger than the size of a walnut in your head.

Neither is going to happen.

Quote: gutterfax "As I have said, the figures quoted are used to generate revenue from advertisers and if you KNOW that they are wrong, I would suggest that you contact the Advertising Commission or whatever you have in Australia to tell them that people are being ripped off.'"


errr, no need, the advertisers aren't fooled.

If channel 10 are paying 10 million for the rights to the next Union world cup, they don't believe it will be a ratings bonanza. 10 million wouldn't get close to securing 3 State of Origin matches.

The 4.5 billion etc figures are lies that only idiots believe. They (The IRB) bend the statistics based on things like "reach" and "cumulative", they then leave that out when making the claim and putz's like you lap it up.

Quote: gutterfax "If on ther other hand, it is just an opinion that they are lies, please refrain from saying it. It just shows you up to be nothing more than a bitter keyboard warrior with a chip on his shoulder...'"


lol Keyboard warrior.

You're a gimp.

Why not try, in your own way, to show us how you think the last RWC got 4.5 billion viewers?

I've shown how it's bull, it wasn't hard, just posting the population of countries where Union has a following is all I had to do.

Prove me wrong.

Quote: gutterfax "Now....must run. I have an attractive donkey to see to and my Union hard on is starting to hurt
Acutally, no self-respecting Donkey would be seen dead with a Union fan....

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In the hope of trying to shut you up with your incesant guess work as to the status of the RUWC on the global stage I found this article on the Lloyds website. I know you may get upset that it doesn't mention Australian TV stations or 2 state sports, but it does mention that the Rugby World Cup is now the 3rd largest sporting event on the planet.
About Lloydsrl

A couple of things to look at in the article and maybe re-read to yourselves a couple of times. The start of the second paragraph and the 13th.
Sorry, but in the global sporting world when it comes to advertising and sponsorship as well as overall profit, you may as well compare the Rugby World Cup to kabbadi if you want to see the impact of the Rugby League World Cup or 4 Nations when looking at GLOBAL Presence and revenue streams.

I have no doubt that skill levels, as well as revenue streams and attendance figures make the NRL far bigger than Superleague and the Guiness Premiership.....and probably Super 14........But face FACTS guys....you can play with your calculators all you like. If Lloyds (who end up covering all the insurance for most events like this) say it, I would tend to believe them rather than some misguided anoracks

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Quote: gutterfax "In the hope of trying to shut you up with your incesant guess work as to the status of the RUWC on the global stage I found this article on the Lloyds website.'"


It's "incessant" for a start. Have some pride, or use a spell check.

You're trying to take the intellectual high ground, it would help if you weren't an idiot.

There is no guesswork on my part, only commonsense. If I see a figure of 4.5 billion for 48 matches, I know that equates to an average audience per game of 98 million. When the few countries that actually have a real interest in Union have a total population of about 150 million (taking into account that there are only 5 million Nazi sympathisers in South Africa who give a toss about Union) I can see that the figures bandied about are complete garbage.

Union isn't Soccer. People don't watch Union internationals when their team isn't playing. England v France in a Union world cup is not going to garner a worldwide audience like England v France would in a Soccer World Cup. The audience outside England and France for a Union world cup match between England and France is miniscule. The same cannot be said for Soccer.

It's not histrionics, it's commonsense. Union is not a sport most of the planet crave. The vast majority of the planet aren't waiting with bated breath for Australia v South Africa in a Union world cup. If that match happens in the Soccer World Cup, the audience in any continent bar Australia and Antarctica will dwarf the Union equivalent. Like comparing the audience for the Super Bowl to Yeovil v Torquay in Conkers.

Asia - Stuff all interest, total population 4 billion.
Europe - GB and Frogland (120 million), total population 830 million.
Africa - 5 million Hitler clones in South Africa, total population 1 billion.
North America - Stuff all interest, total population 530 million.
South America - Stuff all interest - population 380 million.
Oceania - Big in NZ and a few islands, limited interest in Australia, total population stuff all.

If they knocked a zero off and said the average audience per game was 9.8 million, I wouldn't argue at all.

But they don't say that do they?

Quote: gutterfax " I know you may get upset that it doesn't mention Australian TV stations or 2 state sports, but it does mention that the Rugby World Cup is now the 3rd largest sporting event on the planet.'"


That doesn't make it actually true. There isn't a person/company on the planet that can tell me that without me ripping off a few guffaws, let alone an insurance company.

Quote: gutterfax "About Lloyds

I care.

Quote: gutterfax "So, we have the most well known and respected Insurance organisation discussing the RWC rl[sizehere[/sizerl'"


Respected insurance organisation. lol

That's like being a respected village idiot.

Quote: gutterfax "A couple of things to look at in the article and maybe re-read to yourselves a couple of times. The start of the second paragraph and the 13th.'"


Can one re-read without reading?

Quote: gutterfax "Sorry, but in the global sporting world when it comes to advertising and sponsorship as well as overall profit, you may as well compare the Rugby World Cup to kabbadi if you want to see the impact of the Rugby League World Cup or 4 Nations when looking at GLOBAL Presence and revenue streams.'"


Why did you mention the RLWC, it has nothing to do with this discussion.

Deflection, another Union troll trait.

99.999% of Rugby League fans are not in any doubt as to the size/worldwide interest in the Rugby League World Cup. The same cannot be said of Union fans and their world cup.

3rd biggest sporting event.... LOL

Quote: gutterfax "I have no doubt that skill levels, as well as revenue streams and attendance figures make the NRL far bigger than Superleague and the Guiness Premiership.....and probably Super 14........'"


Of course you have no doubt, even a Union fan has to admit that Rugby League in Australia, or "two states" as you call it, is bigger than Super 14 (lmao - S14 doesn't even come close in any category other than crowd average thanks to the Southern African "master race"icon_wink.gif or Guinness or Top 14 etc etc

The NRL's TV deal is almost to the $ the same as SANZAR's deal. That's 2 states (your words) versus the whole of Southern Hemisphere Rugby Union. The problem is that the next NRL TV deal is that it will leave SH Union well behind. We won't be selling 5 years worth of our premier matches for 10 million dollars... 3.876953125:10
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