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| The Wigan club have a strong contingent of gay players. It doesn't need to be announced though, same as if players are straight.
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "If there is none, its an issue, statistically there should be, the fact there isnt shows we have an issue within the game.
And there is a big difference between being a private matter and having to hide your sexuality. If a player was openly gay, and their team-mates knew, and the coaching staff knew you are looking at 40+ people knowing. 40+ people cant keep something under wraps without making a huge effort to do so.
If all those people knew, realistically that information would come out pretty quickly, and players would be asked about it. Unless of course they were making a deliberate effort to hide it, in which case we need to ask why the player felt the need to hide their sexuality'"
Utter bollox , statistics prove nothing other than what is , not what some think they should be , hence why this is a non subject
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| Quote: Wembley2009 "Are straight players open about their sexuality? Do they make comments about being straight, or their wifes/girlfriends?'"
well yes they are.
There was a feature on boots n all last year regarding a players wives rugby team. Weddings and births etc are announced on clubs websites.
Quote: Wembley2009 "
Trying to get people to be "open" about being gay seems that youre trying to say they're different and have to announce it. Why not just leave it as "sexuality unknown" for all players'"
Im not wanting them to 'do' anything. Im saying realistically if there was an openly gay rugby league player we would know about it, Whether it was announced or not. If they were openly gay, it would be reported. If their team mates knew and if their coaching staff knew it would leak out, and then it would be reported. If it was the players choice to announce it or not
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| Quote: Jim Bergerac "There's a pretty simple explanation to all this ;
Despite the fact we live in a more liberal world than we did even in the very recent past, homosexuality is still a very 'taboo' subject. It'll remain that way forever, like it or not.
Having a gay co-worker, a gay team-mate, a gay family member or even a gay person sitting next to them on the bus, is a still a huge deal for a lot of people. I couldn't give two hoots if a work-mate, or team-mate for that matter, was homosexual. However, it WOULD seriously bother some people. Whether you like that fact or not, its 100% true. '" So what? if bigots want to get their panties in a twist who cares?
Quote: Jim Bergerac "Not as many people choose to condemn homosexuality and homosexuals these days, buts its still not a conversation topic a lot of people want to discuss over a cosy family meal.
Its the same in all walks of life. The workplace, football, rugby, whatever, wherever.
The issue of there being few openly gay RL players is not even worth discussion IMHO and lets face it, we're not likely to get any, even in the distant future. The fact that we don't have openly gay RL players is about as relevant as asking why they aren't many openly gay vicars, priests, coal-miners, firemen, police-officers etc...'" except it isnt. because there are many gay Firemen, Police officers and most probably miners. There is a gay police officers union and many high profile homosexual police officers
Quote: Jim Bergerac "
Like I said, homosexuality is still a 'taboo' subject for a lot of people. Despite what some rather naive people like to believe, we don't live in a wonderful, perfect, accepting, uber-liberal utopia.'" Im not naive enough to believe we do. Im saying we have a problem that we dont. Im saying i know people have a problem with it, but the RL community should be making sure that Gay People know we dont agree with them. And Gay People should be comfortable enough in our community not to have to hide their sexuality because of a few bigots. If they arent. Then we as a sport have a problem
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| Quote: Starbug "Utter bollox , statistics prove nothing other than what is , not what some think they should be , hence why this is a non subject'"
So why dont we have any Gay players? is it purely co-incidence?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "So why dont we have any Gay players? is it purely co-incidence?'"
I didn't say we havent , what I said is statistics dont prove that we should or shouldn't either way
As for openly discussing it either in the press or on a RL forum , or even in a cosy chat over dinner , it is best left alone until the relevant person decides they are happy to discuss it
Sex , Politics and Religeon are all private items that all have a choice either to discuss with others or not
Statistically we should have a certain number of Homosexual,BNP supporting Catholics playing RL as well as a certain number of Straight,Tory Jews , not forgetting the Cross Dressing,Raving loony party Muslims
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| Quote: 3DaysGrace "What a ridiculous thread. Seriously.'"
This was posted on the first page, and has summed up the following 13 pages pretty well.
What a non-subject...
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Im saying realistically if there was an openly gay rugby league player we would know about it, Whether it was announced or not. If they were openly gay, it would be reported. If their team mates knew and if their coaching staff knew it would leak out, and then it would be reported. If it was the players choice to announce it or not'"
I don't believe there is the interest in RL for a newspaper to "out" a player. Unless there was a story to it, for example the lover of a player going to a paper with his story, then a newspaper won't just run the story.
As an example, it was clear to Brian Clough that Justin Fashanu was gay. Fashanu was often seen in gay night clubs. But it only became a newspaper story at the end of Fashanu's career, when he came out to the Sun after an incident involving the police in the US.
IMO there is a world of difference between being openly gay and publicly gay. IMO anyone with any sense would not choose to be publicly gay. A RL career is a short career and there are very few players who would want the hassle that being publicly gay brings.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "IMO anyone with any sense would not choose to be publicly gay. A RL career is a short career and there are very few players who would want the hassle that being publicly gay brings.'"
Ah right, that's okay then. As long as gay people keep their sexuality private there's a place for them in RL.
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| I dont understand what the link is between rugby and your sexual preference is. Why do gays need to come out. If a players preference is to bang 2 birds at a time he wouldnt come out. I suspect he will laugh about his conquests with his mates but not go to the Sun or Mirror.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: wire-quin "I dont understand what the link is between rugby and your sexual preference is. Why do gays need to come out. If a players preference is to bang 2 birds at a time he wouldnt come out. I suspect he will laugh about his conquests with his mates but not go to the Sun or Mirror.'"
They dont
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Others/bones.jpg (23:25:06) Thecko: who'd want to rent a book?
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| Quote: Starbug "They dont'"
Indeed. But equally they should be able to do so if they wish without having to worry about the consequences. It is clear from both this thread and the lack of players who have come out that that is not currently the case. This may also put people off the sport for fear that they may be 'outed' and suffer as a result.
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SBR "Indeed. But equally they should be able to do so if they wish without having to worry about the consequences. It is clear from both this thread and the lack of players who have come out that that is not currently the case. This may also put people off the sport for fear that they may be 'outed' and suffer as a result.'"
Or not
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| Quote: Starbug "Or not'"
Gay people should not be able to be open about their sexuality?
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SBR "Gay people should not be able to be open about their sexuality?'"
It is their choice
But like many others on here you are suggesting that 1 st there are some gay players in the 1 st place when you dont know [ dont go quoting statistics , they are not relevant ] for certain , and also that they might want to keep their private life , private
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