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Quote: ComeOnYouUll "How many people attended over the two days would be a more interesting figure than the RFL and Sky adding the two day's figures together.'"


Dunno how you could separate that out TBH.

It is a pretty standard way of accounting, the same happens with season ticket holders at regular games.

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Will everyone stop banging on about using the COM stadium you can only hold x amount of non football events at this ground. These are concerts as they bring in far more cash.

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Edinburgh hasn't been the success Cardiff was......time to move it to another city...How about Paris? or London? or even back to welsh wales even.....

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Wembley for the Magic weekend but use Spring Bank instead, makes it more viable for full family weekends for those who don't watch the games to visit the London sites.

Then Murrayfield for the Challange Cup Final!!!

The agreement the RFL has with Wembley is 1 major event per year minimum so it's not as if the dwindling interest in the CC would be a problem.

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Quote: Loyal Saint "St Helens what a great display.

Soliola, Gidley, Wilkin, Faasavalu, Wheeler and Lomax all out, yet we still wipe the floor with [ia top 6 contestent!![/i

All you neutral fans can call us all you want (you're in transition blah, blah, love*ng blah) We're still one of the team to beat. We have been trhe best team for 14 years and for me we still are!!!

I love you lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"


WTF?!! icon_eek.gif

Wish we was! icon_cry.gif

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Quote: Leaguefan "Wembley for the Magic weekend but use Spring Bank instead, makes it more viable for full family weekends for those who don't watch the games to visit the London sites.
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You mean the weekend when Wembley hosts the football league play-offs? That would be an interesting logistical challenge.

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Quote: tb "You mean the weekend when Wembley hosts the football league play-offs? That would be an interesting logistical challenge.'"



nah

Moron ball can go elsewhere icon_wink.gif

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Quote: tb "You mean the weekend when Wembley hosts the football league play-offs? That would be an interesting logistical challenge.'"


Please don't ban me for this, but I actually watched that 2005 NR Cup Final when I got in last night to cheer myself up! icon_twisted.gif icon_lol.gif icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Big Graeme "We'll ignore the keyboard warrior cr@p hey...

What has the colour of the council got to do with it
Keyboard wariior? Truth hurt you does it? So about this account I had that you said this would go the same as...........

I would have thought the colour of the council was pretty important. If it were Tory you would be saying there would be no chance as they would all be union lovers.

How many opportunities have both stadiums had? Have they declined them. If so, can you tell me when the RFL enquired and when MUFC/MCC said no?

Like the game played in hundreds more schools perhaps, like more amateur clubs in all the AGMA areas where none or very RL little is played. You might not have noticed but the sport is really struggling at amateur level on our doorstep.

A weekend of solid rain on the second May Bank Holiday, doom monger!! Three months until the PL starts from the end of May. That not long enough to repair any damage games do? How much damage does an RL game do by the way? More than a couple of nights of concerts when it's covered for five days with hundreds of tons of equipment and around 100,000 people on it for several hours at a time?

52,000 tickets bought, but how many double counted? What's the breakdown of two dayers, day trippers and Scots then? What were the doom mongers hoping for?

Home, well if you need to ask that you clearly are a troll. Wasn't the Northern Union based in Oldham between 1895 -1920 when it moved to Chapeltown Road in Leeds? COM is 6 miles from Oldham. The NRL does the heritage stuff, what an excellent concept to tie in with the Magic Weekend when it comes home. Give Cats/Quins a weekend off and Maybe put on a local e.g Swinton/Oldham/Rochdale vs whoever championship/championship 1 match on instead? Would sell more tickets than Cats/Quins. 'Magic Is Coming Home' there's your ad campaign strapline right away icon_wink.gif

Why are the football play offs that are being held 200 miles away competition for the Magic Weekend? In the AGMA region Manchester (Utd and City) Bolton, Wigan, Salford, Tameside, Trafford won't be involved and it's highly unlikely that Rochdale Oldham or Bury will either. Will any town that has an SL club who may get to their respective divisional play off really draw away SL club fans? I very much doubt it.

I can't see any reason why the event would not get a full house on both days. Next season Saints are playing at the Stobart, so the Wigan game will top out at 12k. Would get 20,000 by itself at COM.

Done Wales, done Scotland, now it's time to pay the heartlands some attention and give the fans a break from the expense. Refresh the event by bringing it home, then maybe in a couple of years take it back on the road or change the format.

Sure fire winner.

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Quote: Scanners "Keyboard wariior? Truth hurt you does it? So about this account I had that you said this would go the same as...........

I would have thought the colour of the council was pretty important. If it were Tory you would be saying there would be no chance as they would all be union lovers.

How many opportunities have both stadiums had? Have they declined them. If so, can you tell me when the RFL enquired and when MUFC/MCC said no?

Like the game played in hundreds more schools perhaps, like more amateur clubs in all the AGMA areas where none or very RL little is played. You might not have noticed but the sport is really struggling at amateur level on our doorstep.

A weekend of solid rain on the second May Bank Holiday, doom monger!! Three months until the PL starts from the end of May. That not long enough to repair any damage games do? How much damage does an RL game do by the way? More than a couple of nights of concerts when it's covered for five days with hundreds of tons of equipment and around 100,000 people on it for several hours at a time?

52,000 tickets bought, but how many double counted? What's the breakdown of two dayers, day trippers and Scots then? What were the doom mongers hoping for?

Home, well if you need to ask that you clearly are a troll. Wasn't the Northern Union based in Oldham between 1895 -1920 when it moved to Chapeltown Road in Leeds? COM is 6 miles from Oldham. The NRL does the heritage stuff, what an excellent concept to tie in with the Magic Weekend when it comes home. Give Cats/Quins a weekend off and Maybe put on a local e.g Swinton/Oldham/Rochdale vs whoever championship/championship 1 match on instead? Would sell more tickets than Cats/Quins. 'Magic Is Coming Home' there's your ad campaign strapline right away Top Post eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Scanners "Keyboard wariior? Truth hurt you does it? So about this account I had that you said this would go the same as...........

I would have thought the colour of the council was pretty important. If it were Tory you would be saying there would be no chance as they would all be union lovers.

How many opportunities have both stadiums had? Have they declined them. If so, can you tell me when the RFL enquired and when MUFC/MCC said no?

Like the game played in hundreds more schools perhaps, like more amateur clubs in all the AGMA areas where none or very RL little is played. You might not have noticed but the sport is really struggling at amateur level on our doorstep.

A weekend of solid rain on the second May Bank Holiday, doom monger!! Three months until the PL starts from the end of May. That not long enough to repair any damage games do? How much damage does an RL game do by the way? More than a couple of nights of concerts when it's covered for five days with hundreds of tons of equipment and around 100,000 people on it for several hours at a time?

52,000 tickets bought, but how many double counted? What's the breakdown of two dayers, day trippers and Scots then? What were the doom mongers hoping for?

Home, well if you need to ask that you clearly are a troll. Wasn't the Northern Union based in Oldham between 1895 -1920 when it moved to Chapeltown Road in Leeds? COM is 6 miles from Oldham. The NRL does the heritage stuff, what an excellent concept to tie in with the Magic Weekend when it comes home. Give Cats/Quins a weekend off and Maybe put on a local e.g Swinton/Oldham/Rochdale vs whoever championship/championship 1 match on instead? Would sell more tickets than Cats/Quins. 'Magic Is Coming Home' there's your ad campaign strapline right away
the simple answer to all this, is no council in the Manchester area has offered us between £500k and £1m to stage the even there as happened in Wales and Scotland,

Neither are they likely to, for the exact reason you have put, it would give the fans a break from the expense. If fans arent having to get a hotel room, they likely wont spend as long in the town in bars etc, they wont have to eat at a restaurant, and they likely wouldnt save up to treat the event as an event like they do now, they would try and do it 'on the cheap'. This is of no use to a council or the businesses in the area

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Quote: Scanners "Keyboard wariior? '"


You were the one getting nasty my friend.

Quote: Scanners "I would have thought the colour of the council was pretty important. If it were Tory you would be saying there would be no chance as they would all be union lovers.'"


See there you go again making assumptions.

Quote: Scanners "How many opportunities have both stadiums had? Have they declined them. If so, can you tell me when the RFL enquired and when MUFC/MCC said no?'"


How many tri-nations and world cup games have we had in this country? How many played at either of the two football stadiums in Manchester? As I said plenty of chances for them to have RL there if they wanted it.

Quote: Scanners "A weekend of solid rain on the second May Bank Holiday, doom monger!! '"


You are the one wanting to move it and in case you've not being paying attention we've had some pretty bad floods around that time of year.

Quote: Scanners "52,000 tickets bought, but how many double counted?'"


Eh? If you buy a season ticket for a club are you counted once or every time you attend?

Quote: Scanners "What's the breakdown of two dayers, day trippers and Scots then?'"


No idea, ask the RFL, though I've no idea how you find out how many bought a ticket for one day but stayed overnight either.

Quote: Scanners "Home, well if you need to ask that you clearly are a troll. Wasn't the Northern Union based in Oldham between 1895 -1920 when it moved to Chapeltown Road in Leeds?'"


Ah, you see I thought you meant bring the event back home, why does RL need another event in the "heartlands" there are enough reasons to hold events every weekend during the season, it is up to the clubs to make them special, in fact one club did but they got nothing but flack for doing it so how can they win?

Quote: Scanners "Why are the football play offs that are being held 200 miles away competition for the Magic Weekend? '"


In case you weren't aware, Sky gives wall to wall coverage of these and so does the newspapers, you'd be failing on one of the key factors of a big event like this if you discounted those factors.

Quote: Scanners "I can't see any reason why the event would not get a full house on both days.'"


Have you been to one of these events? Have you thought about why it is not idea to have a full house?

Quote: Scanners "Next season Saints are playing at the Stobart, so the Wigan game will top out at 12k. Would get 20,000 by itself at COM.'"


Someone has already stated why CoM wouldn't be interested, I would think there are other stadiums that would be interested in staging a one off game where restrictions aren't as tough.

Quote: Scanners "now it's time to pay the heartlands some attention and give the fans a break from the expense. '"


You seem to have the belief that fans are compelled to go, if the don't want to they won't, if they can't afford it they won't go, they have the choice of a great weekend away in a different part of the country with my way, your way strips them of that choice.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "the simple answer to all this, is no council in the Manchester area has offered us between £500k and £1m to stage the even there as happened in Wales and Scotland,

Neither are they likely to, for the exact reason you have put, it would give the fans a break from the expense. If fans arent having to get a hotel room, they likely wont spend as long in the town in bars etc, they wont have to eat at a restaurant, and they likely wouldnt save up to treat the event as an event like they do now, they would try and do it 'on the cheap'. This is of no use to a council or the businesses in the area'"



At last someone understands the value of the event.

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Man City are not interested in rugby and HAVE gone on record saying they DON'T want rugby being played there.

Using Old Trafford devalues the Grand Final.

Reebok is in the middle of nowhere and too small

DW is a league stadium so err... no

Anfield is in the middle of a ghetto

every other stadium in the North West is too small, Preston, Burnley, Blackburn etc plus they don't stir the emotions.

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Considering there was only 26,000 every day at the most I don't see why the RFL look for a smaller stadium.
Around 35,000 - 40,000 would be ideal, better atmosphere, meaning fans will have a better time and will look better on TV , hopefully encouraging arm chair fans to go the following year.

Obviously it's not just a case of finding one but somewhere different is needed again I think. The plan of moving it every two years is brilliant and keeps the event 'fresh' sort of.

London - Upton Park, Emirates, Stamford Bridge, White Hart Lane
Bristol - New 30,000 seater opening next year
Sheffield - Bramall Lane, very close to city centre
Manchester - COM but I know alot of people have already said we can't play there.
Newcastle - St James Park

All the above IMO would add something new to Magic Weekend, I know people might turn the noses up at a weekend in Sheffield or Bristol or wherever but there still huge cities with loads of hotels, pubs, bars and muesums etc. Maybe even spilt it over london for example having a double header at craven cottage, Loftus Road and games at the Valley for example. Something new and different played over Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Only ideas though!

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