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Quote: The Silent H "

The problem with super league is that the Chairmen have too much power.....

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Ooops more trolling or total naivety.

Those chairmen year on year put ££Millions into their clubs. They walk away and there is no game any more. They own it and pay for it, and they now negotiate the SKY deal for ttheir own clubs so I can guarantee you there is to be no transatlantic dream coming true any time now or in the future. TWP players are at best contracted to see it out to the end of 2021, if they avoid relegation this year they get a second year.

All Argyle has to do is find 11 more North American clubs, and highly rich Americans who can offer to triple the salaries of players here therefore bribing the playing stock of Superleague to go staff a north American League. All academies will then shut here and schools will turn to union. You at best are naive.

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Quote: Donnyman "Are you trolling here? Or is your head so much in the expansion clouds that you think at the other end of the M62 80% of St. Helens fans want a Transatlantic league? That's a 3.000 mile stretch!! So to clarify, you do believe that 80% of Hull represent all English rl fans, which I find odd.

And as for widnes and their academy, they're still running their academy so no evidence apart from pure speculation that other English super league clubs if they were to be relegated, would close their academies? Plus both Bradford and widnes are financial basketcases. What makes you believe that those two are suitable for super league?

Right, at least we are now on the same page.

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Quote: The Silent H "So to clarify, you do believe that 80% of Hull represent all English rl fans, which I find odd.

And as for widnes and their academy, they're still running their academy so no evidence apart from pure speculation that other English super league clubs if they were to be relegated, would close their academies? Plus both Bradford and widnes are financial basketcases. What makes you believe that those two are suitable for super league?

Right, at least we are now on the same page.'"


it was 80% of a very small sample.

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Quote: IR80 "it was 80% of a very small sample.'"



It’s like 8 out of 10 cats.

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Quote: The Silent H " Right, at least we are now on the same page. '"


Don't bracket me with yourself. Your the one trolling now there's no argument that TWP are somehow providing something wonderful to the game here.

No Player development ever
No Canadian TV money ever
No away fans
No glamour team
No marqueee players thrilling the crowd.
No academy
No reserves
No Eric Perez - given up and gone to Bradford Bulls
No players want to play for them unless they are heavily overpaid
No protected status in SL come the 2022 season
No English fans here impressed at all with what they saw sunday

It's an old Leigh team in disguise that actually live here icon_wink.gif and your still falling (sorry trolling) for it. I'd guess now they have seen it the 20 % of Hull based RL fans who thought it may be a good idea to have "American" icon_lol.gif teams may well have changed their view.

Now we have all seen the Transatlantic Dream in all it's glamorous action, perhaps we should re-visit the poll this weekend and ask 20.000 Hull and HKR fans should Hull.K.R stand down for the good of the game and allow New York to take their place next season so we can build on the overwhelming success of "transatlanticisation" that will save the game from dying here! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Mike1970 "It’s like 8 out of 10 cats.'"

Shame it didn't feature Rachel Riley!

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Quote: Donnyman "Don't bracket me with yourself. Your the one trolling now there's no argument that TWP are somehow providing something wonderful to the game here.

No Player development ever
No Canadian TV money ever
No away fans
No glamour team
No marqueee players thrilling the crowd.
No academy
No reserves
No Eric Perez - given up and gone to Bradford Bulls
No players want to play for them unless they are heavily overpaid
No protected status in SL come the 2022 season
No English fans here impressed at all with what they saw sunday

It's an old Leigh team in disguise that actually live here So because I disagree with you on some things and your pro English, financial basketcases clubs opinion, that means I'm trolling, does it? That doesn't progress the discussion, does it?

With your laughable list of opinion based negatives, I could suggest that it is you that is trolling.

You only look for the negatives, whereas I am able to see both.

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Quote: The Silent H "

your laughable list of opinion based negatives '"


Sorry but these are facts as regards TWP.....

No Player development ever
No Canadian TV money ever
No away fans
No glamour team
No marquee players thrilling the crowd.
No academy
No reserves
No Eric Perez - given up and gone to Bradford Bulls
No players want to play for them unless they are heavily overpaid
No protected status in SL come the 2022 season
No English fans here impressed at all with what they saw sunday

In your first ever reply to me you agreed wholeheartedly with my realistic stance. Tell me at what point did I upset you such that you decided to troll me?

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Quote: Donnyman "
Quote: Donnyman "

your laughable list of opinion based negatives '"


Sorry but these are facts as regards TWP.....

No Player development ever
No Canadian TV money ever
No away fans
No glamour team
No marquee players thrilling the crowd.
No academy
No reserves
No Eric Perez - given up and gone to Bradford Bulls
No players want to play for them unless they are heavily overpaid
No protected status in SL come the 2022 season
No English fans here impressed at all with what they saw sunday

In your first ever reply to me you agreed wholeheartedly with my realistic stance. Tell me at what point did I upset you such that you decided to troll me?'"

No Player development ever Your opinion
No Canadian TV money ever Your opinion
No away fans Your opinion
No glamour team Your opinion
[/i]No marquee players thrilling the crowd. Your opinion
No academy
No reserves
No Eric Perez - given up and gone to Bradford Bulls. Your opinion
No players want to play for them unless they are heavily overpaid. Your opinion
No protected status in SL come the 2022 season. Your opinion
No English fans here impressed at all with what they saw sunday. Your opinion

I don't know why it's so hard for you to differentiate what is fact and what is not. Unless you have a crystal ball, out of the 11 things you listed, 9 of them are merely your opinion and have no factual evidence whatsoever.

As for agreeing with you, yes some points I do such as academy and reserves as that is factual. Unfortunately the rest of what you write isn't based on factual evidence. If it was then I might agree with you on that also.

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Quote: The Silent H "what you write isn't based on factual evidence. '"


If you say so icon_lol.gif

It's rather an odd stance to take given we've all had the chance to see TWP in action in Superleague and read about their own admitted failures on the TV money and player development fronts.

They have totally failed and Macca even admitted it, no players, no TV money, massive debt, but maybe you can set out for me, the path they can take to turn this round and achieve success???

Please make sure in your reply you back it with "facts" not fantasy - we've had three years of Fantasy from TWP. Enough is enough..... icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Donnyman "If you say so Like I have said before, the onus is on the person who makes the claims to back them up. Something you don't seem to understand. Its not my job to disprove your opinions.

As for debt, what debt? Who does he owe money to? It's his own money. Argueably he has made better use than most Chairmen in the English rl system.

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Quote: The Silent H "Like I have said before, the onus is on the person who makes the claims to back them up. Something you don't seem to understand. Its not my job to disprove your opinions.

As for debt, what debt? Who does he owe money to? It's his own money. Argueably he has made better use than most Chairmen in the English rl system.'"


He will never back up his claims with any shred of evidence. He will want you to disprove what he says. This is why I have given up replying to him. Its pointless

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Quote: Steph Curry "He will never back up his claims with any shred of evidence. He will want you to disprove what he says. This is why I have given up replying to him. Its pointless'"

You don't reply to him because he makes you look very foolish, if you had anything about you you'd comeback with your evidence, let's start on the easy one where's the grid iron players that was branded about that could be taught the game a046.gif

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Quote: snowie "You don't reply to him because he makes you look very foolish, if you had anything about you you'd comeback with your evidence, let's start on the easy one where's the grid iron players that was branded about that could be taught the game I like how people who aren't fans of Toronto feel that they can say whatever they like without linking sources to back up their opinions, and then expect others to disprove them. Debate doesn't work like that.

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Quote: The Silent H "I like how people who aren't fans of Toronto feel that they can say whatever they like without linking sources to back up their opinions, and then expect others to disprove them. Debate doesn't work like that.'"


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Quote: The Silent H "I like how people who aren't fans of Toronto feel that they can say whatever they like without linking sources to back up their opinions, and then expect others to disprove them. Debate doesn't work like that.'"


https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wh ... -wolfpack/



https://www.theguardian.com/sport/no-he ... ootball-us

Go on then crack on and debate icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

This is one the best link

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