Here yougo, definitive proof the ball did NOT go through the posts, the ball is clearly obscured by the post as it passes outside. IF it had gone between the posts it would have broken the plane and the whole of the ball would be in view.

Unless of course the ball in that rather blurry shot is sideways on....
17-16 stop looking for excuses for poor game management.

Either way, you'd have to see the next frame. All that shot proves is that at that point, the ball hadn't reached the goal yet.

I heard Johnson kicked the ball from a grassy knoll

It's nothing to do with what anyone said. It's what they showed! I.e clearly going through the uprights.

Except the ball continues to be behind (as you see it) the post at every frame continually being obscured by the post as it goes wide. If the ball went through it would obscure the post at all points as it passes it, at no point does this happen.

Show me the frames immediately before and after the one you posted, and if they prove what you claim, I'll be convinced. The key question is, relative to the shot you posted, is the ball moving from left to right, or right to left?

Aren't optical illusions great!

The blue line is the one in line with the black one right???? Wrong......



These lines aren't parallel are they? Erm yes.



The brain and they eye don't always agree with reality....

Slight difference though, you post two images designed to trick the eye.

I haven't worked out how to post images in my phone so can't do that. To answer your question the ball was moving right to left.

Jesus Christ how are people still arguing about this.

I'm pretty sure there is photographic 'proof' that the world is flat too.....

I already did days ago but removed them as I needed the space on my photo hosting site. In any case if the ball is 'behind' the post as it is moving from right to left as we see it, which must be the case as it was the shot from behind the posts any before or after frame is irrelevent, the ball cannot swerve back around 180 degrees and re-appear 'in front' of the post and carry on moving left as viewed from behind the posts.
If you bother to check the video footage, put it into full screen and do a frame by frame pause, grab the image it's obvious even without any fancy processing that the ball was obscured by the post as soon as it started to slide past it. By definition this means the ball travelled outside of the right upright (left post as seen from behind)and went wide.
it is not physically possible for the ball to be obscured at that juncture, pop out still partially hidden as it continues to go wide past the upright and then do the 180degree about face and start a completely new trajectory. okay, maybe an almighty gust of wind or a 'hand of god' but again this never occured.

We are talking about it because a critical error was made by a match official that has a direct impact on our national teams chances of reaching the final. this error was denied by those in the hierachy and the mistake perpetuated by lies from the host broadcaster.

Were James Graham, Sam Burgess, Daryl Clark and Johnny Lomax all in on this conspiracy too as they can all be seen clearly looking at the ball when it travels over?

knockers> I saw your earlier post, and from what you say about travelling from right to left, I agree that it appear to show that the kick missed.

Either way, the ref's decision is the only that matters, though