That's just like an unexpected punch in the eye.



Where does it? You're really stretching to make a point here.



Where did I generalise? I compared Smokey's opinions to those of the drunken & violent moronic Leeds fans that I ran in to returning to the coach. I made no comments about the large majority of Leeds fans.

Quite suspicious how you started out in your first post saying "Leeds fans were kicking off near the coaches".

Yet didn't make any mention of being punched unprovoked. Only when doubted by others you've then added you've got a black eye from an unexpected attack in later posts. Hmmmmm, I might've lead with that from the start TBH.

You describe it as unprovoked yet tell us the motivation behind it was because Leeds fans were upset that they only won by a small margin instead of a big one. Did your attacker run off saying "if we'd won by 50 you wouldn't have gotten that?"

Whilst not agreeing with Smokey, is him and his posts really comparable to someone apparently punching you?

They're both unacceptable aren't they?


The parts where you're arrogant and taking the mick are there. So I'd suggest my post isn't stretching a point anywhere near as much as yours does where you equate Smokey's views to those of people committing violence. Although mine wasn't serious, it was merely to make a point.


But when you say "some Leeds fans" in the context that you have most people would take that to mean at least a significant minority of Leeds fans rather than the specific few that you ran into, otherwise you would continue to refer to them as you had previously. So you're taking the apparent views (though I'm not sure how you worked out their views are as you described) of a handful of people and assuming plenty more Leeds fans are like that. Then, just because you disagree with Smokey, you equated his views to those few who attacked you.

I've been attacked myself before at an RL game, it was away at Saints a few years ago. Like yours it was entirely unprovoked. I didn't assume all, or any other Saints fans thought in the same way because of that, including any Saints fans I might disagree with on the internet. In the same way as I don't tar any other Leigh fans with the same brush for the idiot that shouted in my and my fathers faces.
Some people are idiots, doesn't matter what shirt they wear or where they're from.

Committing genocide and smoking indoors are both unacceptable, it doesn't make them equivalent...

I didn't say they were equivalent.

Yeah, I guess you didn't, fair enough.

I'm nothing if not reasonable.

Well Michael was on our coach and he did post proof of his shiner in Facebook

. I saw the aftermath of the scuffle which was near where the coaches were parked.
I suspect the ones who started it were a small minority and most Leeds fans were ok .
You'll have to hope it doesn't out people off returning for the grand final there should we get there .
The police were in attendance and took statement s

For all that we can say Leigh were excellent, Leeds were dire.

No attempt to build pressure, trying to throw the money ball on every play and failing to complete sets as well as poor discipline giving Leigh cheap field position.

Having been given those advantages Leigh capitalised on them well, but the performance from Leeds should never have been that poor.

The Leeds coach himself said different

Yeah. He's got enough class, having won, not to go on about how terrible we were and bemoan having conceded 12 points.

It'a a knockout game. Once you're in the hat for the next round, how you got there is irrelevant.