Fine I am 75% out.....Bradford are still in a £300,000 hole this year and next!
By the way, I estates the turn over of London broncos to within 8% last year and the rest of sl by an average of 15%.......it's more than educated guesswork

Also sky money is paid monthly so we still have 200k of that to come in this year (4 instalments at 50k each).

And I was only 5 numbers away from winning the lottery on Saturday. The fact is you're basing your argument on incomplete data so it's always going to be skewed in favour of the point you're trying to make.

So you don't the validity of my assertion even though I have pointed out that if I was 75% wrong (I ain't by the way) it just doesn't add up?
It's a long river in Egypt pal!

There is a good chance you are entirely wrong and don't have a clue about Bradfords finances.

Where did you do this?

Really? What part of my maths is wrong?
1.7 million from owner
600k from sky
300k from sponsor
6500 season tickets
8750 average
London and Catalan being poor draw cards
200k loan from council
Missed wages payment

Bradford will turn over close to 5 million this year including 1.7 million from an owner who said his total expected investment was 2 million. Next year, if they miss the 10k st target, they are in a massive hole again....... Does the owner have another 1.7 million he can refinance!

So that was not what you meant@ Well then, let's see what you said:



Any person familiar with English would take that as a contrast - between what they DO aspire to, and what they SHOULD aspire to. Thus you said that the Bulls should aspire to self sufficiency, and that they should not aspire to paying DD charges because they have run out of cash.

Now, you tell us that you did not mean they should or do aspire to cash flow issues. Fair enough, let's run with that. So what else did you mean?

At the moment, it seems your meaning was:


i.e. "THIS thing is what you should aspire to - not THAT thing". But if they don't aspire to "THAT thing" then what's the point of mentioning it?

But you may shed further light, so please feel free. If you can find time away from your bar-room accountant drivel, of course.

PS -it's really not "maths". "Arithmetic" is the word for stuff like simple adding up,

Really...you want to keep digging by hitting the pedant button?




You were wrong then and guess what.....repeating your error doesn't make it any less wrong the second time.

I never suggested that the bulls aspire to cash flow issues and no matter of wriggling on the hook is going to make it any different.

Back on topic......is there a sweep on what month the first save Bradford bucket collection will take place in 2014?

Well the most obvious part of your maths that is wrong is that you are counting both the missed wages payment and the money used to make that payment, thats just stupid. Also you are stating that the £900k invested is to cover this year and using it to create you £1.7m shortfall yet Omar Kahn has stated that this £900k investment was to cover shortfalls from this year, when it has been quite clearly stated that it is to cover shortfalls for this year and next.

You have also missed out the fact you don’t know all of Bradfords income streams, you don’t know how much they take from renting out the stadiums for weddings for instance, you don’t know what their sponsorships deals are this year and whether they are the same next. You dont know their corporate deals, we could all just accept, there is quite a lot you don’t know.

Sponsor money from small sponsors (Eg pitch boards, programme adverts, smaller shirt sponsors)
Programme sales
Food sales
Merchandise sales
Lottery
Game draw
Income from bar
Income from exec boxes
Income from function rooms

I don't have one, and in your case, I don't need one.


Well stop wriggling, then! We can all see you swerved any attempt to explain what else you might possibly have meant. I know you can't, but you could at least have had a stab, it would be funnier. Oh well. We'll have to make do with seeing you get your arrse handed to you on a plate by Smokey and Bullmania, for now.