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Quote: Airlie Street "I completely disagree, they sign contracts knowing relegation is a possibility, if they fail to do the job they are paid for then they have to accept they may lose that job.

If they are good enough then they will be kept on or another club will come in for them.

No one has a god given right to stay a SL player.

I sympathise with anyone losing their job but it happens everyday in countless other industries, sportsmen are not immune to it.'"


Doubt he was complaining when Hull KR won the Championship grand final in 2006.

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My team (Tigers) have seen relegation from SL twice and its is totally devastating. It takes a strong willed club with a ready made supporter base and a bit of a financial gamble to get back up. The game isn't big enough yet for this type of system.

Until we reach between 14 and 16 clubs with the financial clout which is level and above to Leigh we should freeze the competition to the existing 12 and add to it until we reach that level IMO.

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And most years there are one or two players who are playing for their team in the last couple of games knowing that they will be released with no job lined up. Also I don't recall this concern being raised by the Hull KR players this time last year.

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Quote: jakeyg95 "Doubt he was complaining when Hull KR won the Championship grand final in 2006.'"


I don't think he's critisising the concept of promotion and relegation. He's critising a concept whereby 17 men have their, their team-mates and many more people's jobs on the line in one 80 minute televised event that has been created for 'entertainment'.

I didn't enjoy watching the match this year when my team wasn't in it. I won't enjoy watching it with my team in it. I won't be celebrating if we win either.

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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM'' He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue] .... [quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]:



Every team knew the score going into the season. If he didn't want to play in the game he should have played better and helped his team avoid it.

If you don't do so well in your job, you risk losing it. Why should it be any different for the players? It is a great opportunity for these guys, if you play well and win all is well, if you put on a performance and lose, another team might look at picking you up. If you are not worth the money you are being paid, and get a contract offer of less money with the relegated team, then you only have yourself to blame.

However, this all goes back to the failure of the players to have a strong players union. They could have negotiated some form of parachute payment for their contracts (such as being guaranteed the value of their contract for 1 year after relegation). They could also fight against the rising number of games, and lack of growth in the salary cap. But hey, what do I know. Just complain about all these issues when they happen to you, rather than proactively going out and looking for solution before they happen to anyone!

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Promotion and relegation has been a part of sport for decades.

Unfortunately we are a sport which may not have enough funding for clubs to stay full time if they get relegated, but it comes with the territory, if we (Hudds) had dropped I'd expect our better, higher paid players to find contracts elsewhere, the lower paid players would generally remain employed in the lower league.

I don't think that the world would end and everyone would be down at the job centre on Monday morning.

The implications however, could be bigger for Salford and their temperamental owner.

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Quote: Airlie Street "I completely disagree, they sign contracts knowing relegation is a possibility, if they fail to do the job they are paid for then they have to accept they may lose that job.

If they are good enough then they will be kept on or another club will come in for them.

No one has a god given right to stay a SL player.

I sympathise with anyone losing their job but it happens everyday in countless other industries, sportsmen are not immune to it.'"


What about the non playing staff at these clubs. Must be horrible for them knowing that relegation could see them lose their jobs.

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Quote: kobashi "What about the non playing staff at these clubs. Must be horrible for them knowing that relegation could see them lose their jobs.'"


I'm not sure what is meant by non playing staff.Surely the plight of any relegated side is to get back in contention asap,losing non playing staff won't assist that goal.

Yes central funding will be less and thats a good excuse to get rid of somebody. Manual investment is required to get back to top filght,not sacking everyman and his dog.The question is who is willing to make that investment?

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Quote: atomic "I'm not sure what is meant by non playing staff.Surely the plight of any relegated side is to get back in contention asap,losing non playing staff won't assist that goal.

Yes central funding will be less and thats a good excuse to get rid of somebody. Manual investment is required to get back to top filght,not sacking everyman and his dog.The question is who is willing to make that investment?'"


Typically any team trying to get back into SL will look to invest as much of their money in the playing side as they can/want (two very different things I suppose).
To that end they will look to try and trim their budgets elsewhere so it's the non-playing staff that face the axe. Marketing and social media people, office and admin workers, community staff etc. People that remain will be asked to pick up this or that bit of the job that so and so used to do.

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Quote: atomic "I'm not sure what is meant by non playing staff.Surely the plight of any relegated side is to get back in contention asap,losing non playing staff won't assist that goal.

Yes central funding will be less and thats a good excuse to get rid of somebody. Manual investment is required to get back to top filght,not sacking everyman and his dog.The question is who is willing to make that investment?'"


Cleaners, kitchen staff, admin etc etc

If cuts happen it will be those who lose jobs.

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koukash will stay if salford go down so the players will be ok regarding contracts

if they stay up i think he will decide to leave

he doesnt want to leave the club and it not be a sl team

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Quote: Tigerade "Meast - If they did perform better in their current jobs there would still be 2 other sets of players in the same predicament. It's the system he is complaining about.'"

But that's true of every league in every sport where relegation happens. It's just the nature of sport. Teams get relegated, players have contracts slashed, club staff lose their jobs, some clubs go under, but it happens all over the place. That's sport!

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "But that's true of every league in every sport where relegation happens. It's just the nature of sport. Teams get relegated, players have contracts slashed, club staff lose their jobs, some clubs go under, but it happens all over the place. That's sport!'"


Don't contracts become null and void for players if relegated. Is there other sports that do this to the playing staff?

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Quote: kobashi "Cleaners, kitchen staff, admin etc etc

If cuts happen it will be those who lose jobs.'"


Well,I would say you do require cleaners and admin ect ect,in Championship RL also.Its not the end of the world because teams get relegated,its how you deal with it as a club.

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