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| Quote: tigersteve "I live in Wakefield and support Cas, i would never in a million years support a merged team, simply because it is not the team/ club i love.
If Cas ceased to exist i would not watch another team, id watch SL on Sky and that would be it for me, I could quite happily find other things to do with my time that wouldnt costy me in exess of 1000 quid a year.
I watch Cas because its my club and the other people of Castlefords club. That means something to me something, I would not have this feeling for a fabricated Wakleford Tigercats Super Club that would be competing with the best no matter how long i mulled over it.
I like that fact that we as a club punch above our weight and when the stadium gets built we will be up there with the heavyweights. We will be self sustaining aswel which is more than other clubs are if there sugar daddies pull the plug.
Both Cas and Wakey have proud histories and passionate support, a "Super Club" would not prolong the history of these 2 great clubs.'"
Totally agree
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| Sales over. A deal gap been done according to James Elston. Press conference being held right now.
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| Sale completed, Wakefield sign Greg johnson and Josh Griffin from Huddersfield, also hearing that they could be having Kyle Amor going their way also.
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| I was hoping to get a bargain !! like that big inflatable cat they had advertised at £49.99 or a set of corner flags at £20 !!
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| I had an eye on one of the flats..........................
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "That isnt the case at all. Just being the best of however many teams doesnt mean you should be in the elite league, thats the reason we have an elite league.
If Cas's best aim is to simply offer a career to the local juniors and nobody below can offer more, we would be better cutting the size of SL.
And you dont need a sugar daddy to buy the best players or pay the full SC, both Leeds and Hull do it whilst making a profit. You could argue there are reasons Leeds and Hull can do this and Castleford cant, but they are simply reasons that SL may not be the right place for Cas.
The way to success is to develop local talent, but how many are you losing because you cant afford to keep them? If all the aim of Cas is to bring in local talent train them until 20/21/22 then let them go to the bigger clubs, they can do that in the championships.
If you are in SL, more is demanded of you.'"
No thats not the best that cas are aiming for, cas are aiming to grow as a club and doing so. If crusaders were doing as well as castleford in youth development and commercial development you would be shouting it from the roof tops. Success doesnt happen overnight it takes time to build and alot of hard work, that is what cas are aiming for sustainable growth and improvment, which is what the rfl has asked us to do.
Leeds and hull turn a profit, but there was a time they didnt and it took investment from big money men to make them turn a profit, if you have enough money you can make a club profitable, by getting better players in and spending more on marketing, which leads to more fans and more sponsorship.
Of course its not the aim of cas to develop players to see them picked off, that would be absurd, not every club can keep its players for ever. Every club in sl loses home grown players they would prefer to keep. Cas made the decision to concentrate on youth development in 2004, it has taken time for players to come through, some have stayed, some have left and more talented youngsters are coming through all the time. In the last 3 seasons we have lost boyle, shenton and westerman, huby and owen have stayed and holmes, arundel, thompson, milner, davies and walker have come through, with orr returning.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Even if you get half those numbers, its a ridiculously huge amount better than getting none of them.'"
Not if you lose a far greater number of castleford fans.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "
I really cant agree, i really dont think people would be so petty as to give up something they enjoy because it wasnt named how they wanted it.'"
I enjoy watching castleford tigers rlfc, and spend alot of money doing so, i wouldnt spend my money to watch say huddersfield as there not my team, any merged club would not be my team either, so would be as attractive to me as supporting huddersfield. But you want a team for the wakefield district, any team representing wakefield, represents wakefield not castleford, despite the administrative borders of the council no one from the 5 towns feels any affinity towards wakefield, this is what you struggle to grasp and the reason any merger would be a disaster. The people of castleford feel the same way about supporting a wakefield team as wigan fans feel about supporting a st helens team and bradford fans feel about supporting a leeds team.
I wouldnt give up on rugby, if cas didnt exist i would support lock lane, as the being able to support a club i identify with is far more important than the league they play in.
If you really feel that the people of castleford would ever support a wakefield team its pointless trying to explain it to you as you lack even the most basic understanding of the social and sporting attitudes of the area.
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| Quote: pyeman "I enjoy watching castleford tigers rlfc, and spend alot of money doing so, i wouldnt spend my money to watch say huddersfield as there not my team, any merged club would not be my team either, so would be as attractive to me as supporting huddersfield. But you want a team for the wakefield district, any team representing wakefield, represents wakefield not castleford, despite the administrative borders of the council no one from the 5 towns feels any affinity towards wakefield, this is what you struggle to grasp and the reason any merger would be a disaster. The people of castleford feel the same way about supporting a wakefield team as wigan fans feel about supporting a st helens team and bradford fans feel about supporting a leeds team.
I wouldnt give up on rugby, if cas didnt exist i would support lock lane, as the being able to support a club i identify with is far more important than the league they play in.
If you really feel that the people of castleford would ever support a wakefield team its pointless trying to explain it to you as you lack even the most basic understanding of the social and sporting attitudes of the area.'"
What you seem to be confusing is having a team representing Wakefield and a team for the whole of Wakefield. Like it or not Wakefield is the place Castleford is in, Castleford attract people from Wakefield, you might wish to get bogged down in petty parochialism but it really isnt relevant. You dont need to identify with the city of Wakefield to identify with a team which represents the whole of Wakefield.
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| The city of Wakefield IS Wakefield, Castleford is Castleford. You don't get it and never will!
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| And Fev is a village and we all know our place!
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| Quote: SmokeyTA " bogged down in petty parochialism quote]
Petty parochialism to an obvious intellect such as yourself , but to most fans it's called pride in your local team and its the rivalry between teams such as Wakey and Cas that gives RL that bit of extra spice. If I wanted to watch bland franchised pap with no soul I'd go and watch F1 or Ice Hockey. If Wakey were to be phagocytosed by a Wakefield District Uber Team - I'd go and watch Crigglestone All Blacks or Eastmoor Dragons.
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| Would you really?
Why dont you do that now? if you do enjoy watching amateur RL why dont you do it now? If you enjoy it, why is it dependent on the phagocytosis (weird use of the word tbh) of WTW for you to do it?
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