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| Alright then wire Quinn do you think Scott Murrell would’ve complained to the RFL if the Bradford chairman made a remark about his weight?
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| Quote: Willzay "Alright then wire Quinn do you think Scott Murrell would’ve complained to the RFL if the Bradford chairman made a remark about his weight?'"
I really don't know hence the question.
Unfortunately on here it seems it's one issue at a time rather than looking more holistically at what is offensive and how each should be dealt with.
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| Quote: snowie "wonder what the RFL is going to do now as this is a serious complaint, as daft as it seems the club in whole could get serious repercussions ie heavy fine or even points deductions .'"
Any punishment should be against the person only not the club. If a player had said it they wouldn’t punish the whole club.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Any punishment should be against the person only not the club. If a player had said it they wouldn’t punish the whole club.'"
He owns the club doesn't he? He is in a position of responsibility and should act in a responsible way for the sake of his organization.
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| Quote: homme vaste "He owns the club doesn't he? He is in a position of responsibility and should act in a responsible way for the sake of his organization.'"
Yes he does and yes he should, that’s why HE should be punished. That last line stands true and the exact same for players and coaches too though.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Any punishment should be against the person only not the club. If a player had said it they wouldn’t punish the whole club.'"
Err sorry no. When some Trinity idiot let off a flare at Cas a few years ago the club got fined, it wasn't the clubs fault was it, it was twi individuals but thats how it works. Can't just move the goalposts, if that statement he made breaks RFL rules then the club pays the price, whatever that price is.
Frankly its a pee poor bit of behaviour but its surely only a slap on the wrist, lets not blow it out of proportion. The bloke has apologised, he's clearly an idiot as even idiots know that kind of humour (i'm being kind here) is no longer acceptable. It doesn't matter whether in his or your opinion that it's PC gone mad etc etc the fact is society no longer tolerates it and most people are smart enough to accept that, you just can't be too careful.
If I were the RFL I would take another look at this guy before jumping any further into bed with him because that level of crass dumbness does not bode well.
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| Completely in the wrong is Argyle and definitely needs punishing for it. If I was deeply offended by something though & "never felt so little in my life". I think I'd have reported it straight away & brought it to the presses attention. Not waited nearly 2 months until the weekend my team played his team again.
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "Err sorry no. When some Trinity idiot let off a flare at Cas a few years ago the club got fined, it wasn't the clubs fault was it, it was twi individuals but thats how it works. Can't just move the goalposts, if that statement he made breaks RFL rules then the club pays the price, whatever that price is.
Frankly its a pee poor bit of behaviour but its surely only a slap on the wrist, lets not blow it out of proportion. The bloke has apologised, he's clearly an idiot as even idiots know that kind of humour (i'm being kind here) is no longer acceptable. It doesn't matter whether in his or your opinion that it's PC gone mad etc etc the fact is society no longer tolerates it and most people are smart enough to accept that, you just can't be too careful.
If I were the RFL I would take another look at this guy before jumping any further into bed with him because that level of crass dumbness does not bode well.'"
Different cases when it sections of a fan base rather than one individual at the club. Don’t recall when a player has been found to use a racist or homophobic remark the club as a whole gets punished so no it wouldn’t be “moving goalposts”.
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| Quote: Fishermanscap "Err sorry no. When some Trinity idiot let off a flare at Cas a few years ago the club got fined, it wasn't the clubs fault was it, it was twi individuals but thats how it works. Can't just move the goalposts, if that statement he made breaks RFL rules then the club pays the price, whatever that price is.
Frankly its a pee poor bit of behaviour but its surely only a slap on the wrist, lets not blow it out of proportion. The bloke has apologised, he's clearly an idiot as even idiots know that kind of humour (i'm being kind here) is no longer acceptable. It doesn't matter whether in his or your opinion that it's PC gone mad etc etc the fact is society no longer tolerates it and most people are smart enough to accept that, you just can't be too careful.
If I were the RFL I would take another look at this guy before jumping any further into bed with him because that level of crass dumbness does not bode well.'" or even the bottle throwing by the cas fans did for the second time cost the club £40K
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| Aside from the fact it's completely unacceptable and racist - what was he thinking saying it?
The lame excuse for an apology after he's been called out about it is just as troubling.
Is this guy fit to run a club in Superleague with or without his boat load of cash? Common sense is obviously in short supply at Toronto.
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| I'd say the comment about allowing black people in Swinton is racist, the chap purporting to be an advocate for the Devil in my opinion is attempting to muddy the water with his 'Fat Gets' comment using that phrase could be classed as poor taste but I'm not aware of any historic legal segregation of fat people from thin people. As a former chubby possibly even fat get I had a fair amount of name calling some in banter some as an intended insult but it's not illegal fortunately my fat was wrapped in pretty thick skin. A season visiting Weighchers or as my colleagues called it Fatshifters so no more chubby jokes its baldy ones now.
The Swinton comment is an utter disgrace and the man should be dealt with.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Different cases when it sections of a fan base rather than one individual at the club. Don’t recall when a player has been found to use a racist or homophobic remark the club as a whole gets punished so no it wouldn’t be “moving goalposts”.'"
No its not its the same.
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| Dumb comment to make. Apology to the player behind closed doors should have been enough to sort this out. Now it's all over social media and the pitchforks are out.
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| Sorry Printer but I disagree, DA is ultimately responsible for the club, that`s the difference here.
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| I feel like I'm wading into muddy ground here, but without having being present during the conversation, I read the comments as a slight against Swinton as a town. ie. a joke in poor taste that they are ignorant and a bit backwards. It's the kind of thing you might say to a mate as a joke, but it's totally inappropriate to someone you're just meeting in a professional capacity. He should be rightfully embarrassed, but for me the apology is enough.
As someone who is mixed race, who has gone to live games regularly for the last 15 years, I'm amazed to say I've never seen even the slightest bit of racism. I think we're pretty good as a sport for it. Watching the BBC's codebreakers docu I think shows partly why.
If these are the kind of comments we have to - rightfully - discuss, then we're doing ok. I despair when I look at the state of football, where racism is completely ingrained!
Stupid comment by Argyle, I'm sure it won't happen again. Lets move on.
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