The majority of threads on the front page of the VT are those started by fans of Wakey or Leigh or other smaller clubs bemoaning expansion, be that because of the red herring that is away fans not traveling or travelling to Toronto being an expense. Leigh look like they have gone boom or bust, wakefield are living hand to moth, Salford and Widnes are on the brink and I'm the bad guy?

I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue

I find it better to reply to the post , not necessarily the poster , and certainly not to others who haven't even posted , as I said , it doesn't help the cause

This!

Clubs seem to have no issues getting to Perpignan each year. Just another poop stirring thread from a bitter fan who hates the thought of 'his game' expanding....yawn
Jealousy keeps you imprisoned sunshine. Let it go.

As other posters have said. It really shouldn't be an issue with regards SL.

However, if Toronto aren't promoted, and stay in the championship. Then it does become an issue.

Yet historically clubs have never had to fund flying 20+ staff to another continent with accommodation for a few days. Why should they be able to afford such a significant expense?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was on the understanding (that at least a few years ago and maybe even now) the RFL funded British clubs' flights to Catalans.

I have no objection to clubs setting up in other countries. What I do object to is the loss of a domestic league. If we want an international competition (do we) then make a Champions League style competition or expand the World Club Challenge. Don't deny me and other genuine fans the opportunity to see their team home and away. We have enough problems with non-televised matches being on Fridays which are almost impossible to get to due to the unpredictable M62/other roads (not just the M62 corridor) and time off work.

As for people quoting football fans travelling around Europe, money and attendance wise that is a very different league to RL. The European matches are televised and clubs have 30/40,000 plus regular attendances as opposed to our big clubs getting around 10k.

I see Toronto are up in arms because they can not play 3 games on the trot in England they have to play 1 home 1 away like every body else they are blaming the super league teams from trying to stop them getting promoted

That has never been the case for SL clubs.

The RFL did have a "pool" where SL clubs paid an equal amount to cover the costs of traveling to France, meaning that it was fairer for those clubs that either played in France twice, or for clubs who had to travel during expensive travel periods (school holidays for example), but the RFL have never funded travel for SL clubs (and rightly so).

I don't think that pool exists anymore - too many clubs opted out to make their own arrangements (I know that Leeds historically charters its own plane and sells it as a "corporate trip" to cover the cost of flying the players out).

Historically clubs have never received the money they do now from TV or have the opportunity they have to gain significant sponsorship.

If a Superleague club cannot afford to fund 1 trip to Toronto then they shouldn’t be in Superleague.

Catalan have to travel away multiple times in a season and pay the costs so no other club can moan about paying for 1 trip to Toronto

This x10!

Even if it wasn't intentional, there's something quite poetic about that imagery.

Maybe a new package deal, a raft or dingy & a couple of oars with an all odd cons mud hut for accommodation on arrival, must travel on a Thursday though & row back to Scotland day after match !

Shall we replace Woeful Wakefield *sarcasm Trin fans* with say your preferred London village maybe ?
That will be the perennial revolving corner shop of changing name & venue Fulham, Harlequins, Broncos & all other names used replete with your nomadic hoardes numbering around 400 !

Funny how you rarely mention London Nomads/Fulham/Quins isn't it, or maybe not as it doesn't fit your heartlands bashing agenda.