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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Oh great.
Back to packing your team full of journeymen imports and old pros in an attempt to avoid relegation. Sod youth development, sod long term projects.
Let's just throw it all away to satisfy a couple of thousand fans of Championship clubs.'"
So us Championship fans with our moaning on an internet message board have convinced the SL Chairmen and the RFL hierarcy to change the structure of the sport
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| Quote: Nothus "Not sure why people are having a go at the champ clubs, this was put to a vote to the existing SL clubs and they rejected the option of remaining a 14 team league..'"
Because its convenient for idiots like Smokey to blame Championship clubs rather than admit that SL CLUBS can't make the current system work.
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| I think the decision to go to 12 teams is the right call. I don't think 14 teams has worked and the play-off system is a real farce.
The decision to go to P&R is something that I do not necessarily agree with though. I don't think there is the money in the sport to justify clubs at the bottom of the league busting a gut to merely survive. Also, I don't see how a Championship club is going to come up and be able to survive in the league in their first season. The gap is too big and I fear that this is a recipe for a disaster to do this now.
A revamped licensing system that is fair would have been my preferred option with 2 leagues of 12.
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| Why is this happening? Why are we going back to a system that was unsuccessful for years?
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Aye, nobody ever went bust or ran their club badly under P&R, did they?
Still, it might create one final round game that Sky can show and make a piece of sporting theatre out of. Will also give fans of Championship clubs a chance to feel part of the big time for one season. Ask Leigh what a positive effect getting relegated had on their club.'"
Or a part of Rugby League !
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| Quote: headhunter "Why is this happening? Why are we going back to a system that was unsuccessful for years?'"
Go and ask SL clubs. They've driven this decision. Maybe something's wrong with the franchise system? Duh!
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| Quote: littlerich "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Loving the dummy spits. It's made my day this.
Didn't know Championship clubs were so powerful Smokey!! You massive tool. Lol.'"
Cutting the league down to 12 isn't down to championships clubs and isn't dependent on any return to P+R. It is a cowardly regression of the game entirel down to the SL clubs and RFL Leadership.
Nobody in the game should be celebrating this
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| Quote: littlerich "Go and ask SL clubs. They've driven this decision. Maybe something's wrong with the franchise system? Duh!'" I don't care who made the decision, it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. If SL clubs are incapable of doing what is best for the sport then they should not be involved in the decision-making process.
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| Quote: Starbug "So us Championship fans with our moaning on an internet message board have convinced the SL Chairmen and the RFL hierarcy to change the structure of the sport
No, but it has allowed cowardice and self-interest to be sold as a return to traditional values (sadly a return to cowardice and self-interest is RL's traditional values, but it isn't a good thing)
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| You would have to think that London are one of the favourites for the chop, so what does this mean for RL in the capital? Are the RFL finally admitting defeat?
I just can't see P&R working. At all. Haven't the progression of Catalans and Widnes proved anything? Without licensing, both of these clubs would have been straight down to the championship after their first season in SL, and god knows how much longer it would have taken them to get to where they are now, if they ever managed to get there at all.
I just can't see this being anything but a complete disaster.
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| Quote: littlerich "Because its convenient for idiots like Smokey to blame Championship clubs rather than admit that SL CLUBS can't make the current system work.'"
SOME SL clubs can't make it work. SOME are doing very well.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "SOME SL clubs can't make it work. SOME are doing very well.'" I can't see any clubs that could be described as 'not making it work', apart from London who would be failing under any system. Certainly none of the clubs would be any better off from a return to automatic promotion and relegation.
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| Quote: headhunter "I don't care who made the decision, it shouldn't have been allowed to happen. If SL clubs are incapable of doing what is best for the sport then they should not be involved in the decision-making process.'"
Maybe it's got something to do with the Chairmen who run those clubs and them knowing first hand about the difficulties facing them (and their bank balances) in running a club. They should ignore all those experiences and listen to forum contributors who seem to know how to make it work.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "No, but it has allowed cowardice and self-interest to be sold as a return to traditional values (sadly a return to cowardice and self-interest is RL's traditional values, but it isn't a good thing)'"
Yes but lets be clear who is showing this cowardice and self interest? , it is the SL chairmen who have forced this change
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| Quote: littlerich "Maybe it's got something to do with the Chairmen who run those clubs and them knowing first hand about the difficulties facing them (and their bank balances) in running a club. They should ignore all those experiences and listen to forum contributors who seem to know how to make it work.'" Maybe it's to do with the chairmen/chief executives being incompetent morons who don't know what they are doing. If anyone can explain how any of the clubs could possibly be better off in any way from a return to an illogical boom-and-bust system then please go ahead.
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