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Quote: Odemwingie "So we now have 5 teams outside super league with better stadiums than the ones in super league.'"



yes quite... just a shame they arent infront in any other area!!!

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: BelleVueLifer "yes quite... just a shame they arent infront in any other area!!!'"


They don't have chance to be ahead in other areas because they are not in super league.

I can think of a few teams who would add more value to super league than Wakey, Celtic and Quins. But in the bigger picture it would not be right to chuck them out. So let Fax build up those other areas. Lets be honest though many teams are envious of them because the stadium is probably the hardest area to improve.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "They don't have chance to be ahead in other areas because they are not in super league.

I can think of a few teams who would add more value to super league than Wakey, Celtic and Quins. But in the bigger picture it would not be right to chuck them out. So let Fax build up those other areas. Lets be honest though many teams are envious of them because the stadium is probably the hardest area to improve.'"


Depends if you can share with a football or union team it becomes a hell of a lot easier.

Ditto if you have a local council willing to help fund the stadium.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: pyeman "Depends if you can share with a football or union team it becomes a hell of a lot easier.

Ditto if you have a local council willing to help fund the stadium.'"


Clubs have had years to sort out this issue.

I heard in Castleford that the council were going to fund loads of developments in different areas, there was a programe on about it, why did the club not tap into this?

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "Clubs have had years to sort out this issue.

I heard in Castleford that the council were going to fund loads of developments in different areas, there was a programe on about it, why did the club not tap into this?'"


Very little money was given out compared to what alot of people were wanting, and it was to be used for a new bridge and redevelopment of the town square (and some local parks) none of this money was ever available for sports and wouldnt have been enough anyway.

The council has publically stated it will not give a penny towards funding stadia for cas, wakey or fev.

Its all well and good saying that clubs have had years to sort this out, but clubs in our district have no council support and no football/union clubs to share with.

Can you tell me one stadium in rl that was built in the last twenty years without the council putting money in or that didnt involve sharing with football or union?

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Pah. You couldn't beat the weavers in the shadow of a half built stand. You've gone all posh on us now.

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: pyeman "Can you tell me one stadium in rl that was built in the last twenty years without the council putting money in or that didnt involve sharing with football or union?'"


Halliwell Jones?

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Quote: bramleyrhino "Halliwell Jones?'"


May not be one of those two, but it was entirely driven by a major supermarket as stated rlHERErl

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Quote: Fully "May not be one of those two, but it was entirely driven by a major supermarket as stated rlHERErl'"


I'm well aware that it was bankrolled by Tesco but it still goes against the "you need a football club or a supportive council" argument.

St Helens' new ground also won't require the involvement of a football club.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: bramleyrhino "I'm well aware that it was bankrolled by Tesco but it still goes against the "you need a football club or a supportive council" argument.

St Helens' new ground also won't require the involvement of a football club.'"


But both have had some council ' help ' , maybe not actual financial , you could say ' Blackmail ' in Warringtons case

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "So we now have 5 teams outside super league with better stadiums than the ones in super league.'"


Matters not , unless those stadiums have around 5,000 in them on a regular basis , having a nice stadium [ especially one not owned by the club ] is of little consequence, as long as any stadium is fit for purpose and safe it is fine for SL , even Headingley icon_wink.gif

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Wakefield will be building by the end of 2010!

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Quote: a.n Other "The North and South Stands are newish as well - the Skirtcoat all seater down the West side of the ground could do with renovating but its still better than most.'"


Ah so you do still live in the 80's then icon_smile.gif

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Quote: J20 "Ah so you do still live in the 80's then
I hope so, we won the 1st division title and the Challenge Cup in the 1980's. We were almost as good as Widnes icon_wink.gif

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