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| Quote: django "James Grahams big problem is that he comes across as a complete tw@. This is a big shame as he's actually a very good player. It's just his attitude that makes him unlikeable.'"
Like Wayne Roomey in football, remove that feisty streak and you half the player. Off the field, Jammer is a great lad. On the field he is a born winner. He hates to lose and hates to under perform.
Like Rooney, it is about maturing that attitude.
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| Jesus christ!
Best prop in superleague by a country mile.
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| I dont like Graham but I would have him at Leeds in a shot. A top quality player who gives everything he has got week in week out. He may need to cool down a bit though. If he carries on like he is he will end up burnt up by the time he is 27. He hardly ever comes off, takes the ball up 2 and 3 times a set and defends like his life depends on it.
Overrated? No.
Overworked? Deffo!!!
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Let be honest he only makes them yards because he has to. If Jamie Peacock was in this Saints team then he’d have to make all them hard yards that graham does. We’ll only ever get to see how good James Graham is if he ever gets to be in a pack that is as good as that we have at Leeds.
Till then he’s just a big fish in a little pond IMO.'"
Just let me get this straight because I must have read it wrong. James Graham is overrated because he is effectively taking a team forward single handed and would only be tested if he was in a better pack. I need to know because later in the thread you say you know a lot about Rugby League so I must have misunderstood?
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| There are very vfew things I give you Poms credit for.....however.....
The most over rated player in SL.....now that is a tough field to beat!
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| Quote: Man Beast "Jesus christ!
Morley?
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| My god, how can the guy be overated, Damo have you seen his stats compared to any other prop in the league, he is one of the few players that will make an impact in the NRL,
Bet you wouldnt be sayin this if he was a Leeds player.
give your feet a wobble!!!!
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Yet we have underrated ones like one time dream team member Kevin Penny whose never played for England and would work wonders for us. '"
take me to your dealer
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| James Graham is a fantastic player, but as a prop he needs to not let other players get under his skin, as that is a clear sign of weakness, he needs to channel his petulance and not let it get to him, apart from looking like a stroppy little pr!ck other decent props will use this against him.
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| Quote: Damo-Leeds "Let be honest he only makes them yards because he has to. If Jamie Peacock was in this Saints team then he’d have to make all them hard yards that graham does. We’ll only ever get to see how good James Graham is if he ever gets to be in a pack that is as good as that we have at Leeds.
Till then he’s just a big fish in a little pond IMO.'"
Quote: Damo-Leeds "Sinfield is a fantastic captain for the Leeds Rhinos and will put his best effort in week in, week out. When Sinfield is playing at his best he’s the best in the world at what he does. Doesn’t stand out too much but he doesn’t get creamed over by the media either.'"
Quote: Damo-Leeds "McGuire IMO is the best stand off in the world. A once in a lifetime player that will be impossible to replace when he goes'"
F*cking hell.
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| The fact that you all take him seriously is funnier than the original post.
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| I don't get all this about him needing to calm down his petulance. Aside from not shaking hands at the end of the game against Leeds I don't think it really changed much. He was annoyed after the chicken wing from JJB but about a minute later he was charging the ball up and putting Gilmore in for a try. As far as I can see he does sulk a bit but not to the detriment of his game.
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| When Graham does it, it's petulance and he needs to grow up because he's showing weaknesses. When Peacock does it, it's sheer grit and determination; it makes him 'ard.
How often when you're watching a game do you see a bit of handbags being thrown? Players getting p*ssed off with a certain challenge from a player, does that mean they're all petulant and need to stop showing weakness?
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| Quote: Robbie Rotten "When Graham does it, it's petulance and he needs to grow up because he's showing weaknesses. When Peacock does it, it's sheer grit and determination; it makes him 'ard.
How often when you're watching a game do you see a bit of handbags being thrown? Players getting p*ssed off with a certain challenge from a player, does that mean they're all petulant and need to stop showing weakness?'"
As far as I know, Peacock has never at the end of a game thrown his toys out of the pram and tried to get his teammates not to shake hands with the opposing team because they've been a little bit rough with them.
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| Quote: NSL "Calling James Graham overrated is the new fad for people who don't have a clue about the game.'"
Correct, although being a Wigan fan Graham is the sort of prop I would love to have at Wigan. If he had of been injured for any long periods of time this year then they would have lost alot more games than what they have done, he carries them up the pitch pretty much by himself. I just hope because of how many games he's played already he doesn't get burnt out to soon.
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