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Quote: Paull3v "So that the home nations have a bit more quality when we play them. As if Bridgey would play for Ireland every time when they know they arent going to be playing the Aussies and NZ.

I dont usually like it, but im sure the home nations matches dont really matter to the top players anyway. Its more about building the game, and building up some of the younger players.

At least its not a Viankolo, Hape or Fa'savalu style nation changes'"



But Bridge did play for Ireland then when he realised that he would never be able to play competitively against aus and NZ he opted to play for England. the same with harrison and now Brough. Evans has thrown his lot in with England without representing wales despite being born there in the hope that he will be picked to play for England in the future. wales have lost a good player who might never even pull on an england shirt. he could have opted to play for wales knowing that in the 4 Nations if he was good enough he could have been called up to the GB squad.

Losing GB means that for a lot of players it is now England or bust.

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Quote: PHIPPS "It's pretty pointless having a 'GB' side really.

It would be the same line up as 'England''"



apart from

Bridge, harrison, prescott, mcilorum Ireland

Brough Scotland


Evans Wales

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Quote: Durham Giant "apart from

Bridge, harrison, prescott, mcilorum Ireland

Brough Scotland


Evans Wales'"


But Brough, Bridge, Evans and maybe even Harrison have all switched to England already. And you can bet the others would if they were in with a chance. These players choose a Celtic nation when they are no hope of playing for England but soon change when they suddenly become good enough to play for England.

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Quote: Durham Giant "How many times do i have to keep asking the question [sizeWHY[/size

I believe that the RFL are reconsidering this decision .'"



you can believe all you want...i know they are'nt......so everything you've said after that can be discounted

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Quote: ECT "But Brough, Bridge, Evans and maybe even Harrison have all switched to England already.'"


harrison switched 2 years ago..... ignorance yet again!

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It's hard to keep track of all these players Ingerlund are poaching from the weaker countries.

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Quote: roughyedspud "harrison switched 2 years ago..... ignorance yet again!'"


he switched ta the same time as Bridge.

You still have not answered my question because you cannot.

Despite attempts to make smart comments [sizeANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION[/size

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Quote: ECT "It's hard to keep track of all these players Ingerlund are poaching from the weaker countries.'"



DITTO SON DITTO


the difference is here players choose to switch because the aussies & kiwis refuse to tighten the laws allowing players to switch...hey if you can "loan" players out to the islands and call them back when you need them then we can "loan" players out to the celts


you lot hunt players and dangle origin shirts infront of them or warn them that if they pick another country they'll won't be able to play origin...

so sod off...peoplein glasshouses should'nt throw stones...ya clown

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Quote: ECT "It's hard to keep track of all these players Ingerlund are poaching from the weaker countries.'"


Yeah because all the poor defensesless players dont have a say in the matter?

They are wanting to play top quality rugby against the best teams so i cant fault them.

The fact that Bridge is from Oldham and Harrison was born in Barrow i suppose doesnt make a difference ?

Its just as much the players as it is the countries.

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Quote: Durham Giant "How many times do i have to keep asking the question [sizeWHY[/size

.'"


i'll give you the answer i've always given...


[sizecos it would be 17 englishmen[/size


until the GB squad contains at least 3,4,5 genuine welsh (like evans) or scotsmen (not like brough) (forget ireland they want nowt to do with GB)...then GB is pointless!

and thats been my stance for friggin 3-4 years

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Quote: roughyedspud "all give you the answer i've always given...


[sizecos it would be 17 englishmen[/size


until the GB squad contains at least 3,4,5 genuine welsh (like evans) or scotsmen (not like brough) (forget ireland they want nowt to do with GB)...then GB is pointless!

and thats been my stance for friggin 3-4 years'"


Like Brian Carney d040.gif


So what you are saying is if there were 5 "GENUINE" celts you would go back to GB like J Davies, Scott Gibbs etc

How far sighted off you. icon_eek.gif

You have just criticised Australia for picking and choosing which polynesians they will play and when they are needed then are suggesting the same thing for ENGERLUND

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like carney???? i'm on about now !!!! not 6 years ago...

and yes for GB to be viable it has to contain genuine welsh and scots players.....how narrow minded of ypou not to think so!!!!!!!


GB has to operate like the british lions in union to sustain itself...

only a fool would think otherwise...


17 englishmen playing australia or NZ might aswell play as ENGLAND cos it sure has hell does'nt represent Great Britian!!!


and i critized australians reaction to us picking celts......cos they do the same with islanders.....learn to read!


DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!

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Quote: roughyedspud "like carney???? i'm on about now !!!! not 6 years ago...

and yes for GB to be viable it has to contain genuine welsh and scots players.....how narrow minded of ypou not to think so!!!!!!!



it seemed to work quite well from 1922 to 2007



GB has to operate like the british lions in union to sustain itself...

only a fool would think otherwise...


Only a fool would think like yourself as the aim should be to develop Rl and the international competition

17 englishmen playing australia or NZ might aswell play as ENGLAND cos it sure has hell does'nt represent Great Britian!!!

And if Rhys Evans gets into the team will you start calling it an england select team or england and Wales]

and i critized australians reaction to us picking celts......cos they do the same with islanders.....learn to read!


DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!!'"


The problem is that we are talking about diofferent things.

I am talking about the development of INTERNATIONAL RL and the game as a whole. Losing every talented Welshman to England does nothing for developing the international game. It certainly does nothing for Wales.

You are talking about some sort of national eligibility criteria which is probably more about your personal prejudices than developing RL.

maybe you think we should cancel the WC because only 3 countries are truly eligible or maybe we should tell all the other nations that they have to play nationally home based amateurs so that they are "pure " enough to fit your criteria.

maybe your avatar tells me all i need to know.

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Quote: roughyedspud "DITTO SON DITTO


the difference is here players choose to switch because the aussies & kiwis refuse to tighten the laws allowing players to switch...hey if you can "loan" players out to the islands and call them back when you need them then we can "loan" players out to the celts


you lot hunt players and dangle origin shirts infront of them or warn them that if they pick another country they'll won't be able to play origin...

so sod off...peoplein glasshouses should'nt throw stones...ya clown'"


You should have a look in the mirror bigot. You lot started all this when you decided Polynesian players shouldn't be allowed to play for Australia and you ed and moaned about it constantly. Now Ingerlund is ripping the guts out of Celtic nations, including born and bred Welsh players, and the hypocracy is astounding. But you never ever ever ever acknowledge the fact that you were dead dead wrong to have a go at Australians of Polynesian (and Melanesian) descent playing for Australia. Seems like the only difference is that our players are non-white. Is that what allows your hypocracy to pervade? You lot can do it because they're whiteys? Keep waving your St George cross. We know the kind of folk who like to do that.

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Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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