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| Quote: Pepe "No, because it was just a pathetic little cheap shot, and your accusations, nay calumnies, are false and you know it.
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It was an observation , wether you care to believe me is up to you , I am not going to trawl through pages and pages of posts to find the often asked for evidence or link , but they are there ,
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| Quote: Starbug "It was an observation , wether you care to believe me is up to you , I am not going to trawl through pages and pages of posts to find the often asked for evidence or link , but they are there ,'"
I have already seen pretty much every post by a Widnes fan, over the last couple of days, and they are not there. You are just making things up. |
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| Quote: Starbug "The point of the thread has changed from the OP , Pepe , as for my comment , it just seems that suddenly , lots of Widnes fans who were just as vitriolic in their condemnation of franchising as us Championship fans a couple of years ago , now seem to suggest it is a good thing , and interesting enough , fans of clubs in danger seem to be favouring P and R all of a sudden'"
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| Quote: Pepe "I have already seen pretty much every post by a Widnes fan, over the last couple of days, and they are not there. You are just making things up.'"
It is just a subtle change of attitude , I have no doubt if we were ever fortunate enough to get the chance many Leigh fans , quite possibly myself ( although I'd like to think not ) would start to see things differently , just human nature I suppose
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| Quote: Starbug "It is just a subtle change of attitude , I have no doubt if we were ever fortunate enough to get the chance many Leigh fans , quite possibly myself ( although I'd like to think not ) would start to see things differently , just human nature I suppose
Eh up , backups arrived ![]()
Aye, happen. It seems to be so ing subtle, only you can see it. I think the only change in attitude is from your end.
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| Quote: Pepe "Aye, happen. It seems to be so loving subtle, only you can see it. I think the only change in attitude is from your end.'"
Were all entitled to our opinions |
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| Quote: Starbug "Were all entitled to our opinions'"
You've gone down in my estimation with that one, chief.  |
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| Quote: Pepe "You've gone down in my estimation with that one, chief. ![]()
Was I ever ' up ' after my posts about million pound profits in the Championship 
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| Quote: Starbug "Was I ever ' up ' after my posts about million pound profits in the Championship ![]()
WTF are you talking about?
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| Quote: Pepe "WTF are you talking about?'"
Your turnover of 2.5 million , and profit of 1 million last year , don't tell me you've forgotten about it already , we spent hours arguing about it , it was the reason I left the Widnes MB alone for months |
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| Quote: Starbug "Your turnover of 2.5 million , and profit of 1 million last year , don't tell me you've forgotten about it already , we spent hours arguing about it , it was the reason I left the Widnes MB alone for months'"
We've never actually got to the bottom of why you left in a huff. No-one was really taking any notice of you, except to say that you were like a ing stuck record. This has very little to do with my personal attitude towards you.
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| Quote: Pepe "You've gone down in my estimation with that one, chief. ![]()
He went down in my estimation when his arguments became less about the inner workings of the RFL and more about his fellow championship fans. The reason he can't back up his argument about "widnes fans" becoming arrogant is because there are not nearly enough to justify calling us out on it. The main argument, which has been directed at people who think we had no rights to get a franchise, is that we are the club in the best position. It was never an argument about the righteousness of P & R or licensing.
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "He went down in my estimation when his arguments became less about the inner workings of the RFL and more about his fellow championship fans. The reason he can't back up his argument about "widnes fans" becoming arrogant is because there are not nearly enough to justify calling us out on it. The main argument, which has been directed at people who think we had no rights to get a franchise, is that we are the club in the best position. It was never an argument about the righteousness of P & R or licensing.'"
No you've lost me there , I have never suggested arrogance , temporary insanity yes , arrogance no
I have never suggested that you were anything other than the obvious , in fact only club in a position to successfully move up to SL from the Championship
However in the last 48 hours I have detected a change in general opinion of the Widnes fans from franchising being a bad thing , to being a good thing
Just telling it as I see it |
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| Quote: Starbug "No you've lost me there , I have never suggested arrogance , temporary insanity yes , arrogance no
I have never suggested that you were anything other than the obvious , in fact only club in a position to successfully move up to SL from the Championship
However in the last 48 hours I have detected a change in general opinion of the Widnes fans from franchising being a bad thing , to being a good thing
Just telling it as I see it'"
Unless you back it up with something, it is totally meaningless. Just saying it doesn't make it the reality. I am not arguing with you about it because I doubt you, I am arguing with you because I know it is an absolute lie and that there is not a shred of evidence for it.
Look, there are advantages and disadvantages of the licence system. For SL clubs with a 3 year licence, it’s great. For Championship clubs it’s loving disaster!
That’s why I and the vast majority of Widnes fans are against it; or at least the way it has been implemented and abused by the RFL. You simply must have been confused by Widnes fans being elated at the decision or something, because I have seen no change in attitude at all.
Any way. I'm going to watch the last half hour of the Broncos v panthers game I've recorded and then I'm off to bed. I think I've had enough of you for one night. |
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| Quote: Starbug "The top RU club in Wellington NZ was the ' Lions ' , when the ' super ' concept started , the Lions continued , but the Hurricanes were formed to play in the new competition '"
The Lions aren't a club. It is the nickname of the Wellington provincial representative side. |
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