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| Quote: mapleyther "Yes, Hudgell has kindly supplied the answer we have all been waiting for - a 10 team SL. Who would be daft enough to invest new money in a sport that is on its knees, even more than it was before - other than Derek Beaumont?
I suppose the other option is to promote 4 teams from the Championship - Leigh, London, Toulouse and one other.'"
I'll be happy enough if we make it to the end of the season without any casualties among the teams or players.
We are indeed in testing times both in terms of the direct effects of Covid and the consequences of a deep recession.
Get to the end of the season and hope that SL and The Championship can go again next season.
With Toronto being on their booty and massive uncertainty whether the can or indeed should come back into SL, there's a whole load of head scratching and clever thinking needed to ensure that RL makes it through to the other side.
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| Quote: mapleyther "
Who would be daft enough to invest new money in a sport that is on its knees, even more than it was before - other than Derek Beaumont?
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It's not investment though is it. It's covering the losses with no chance of your money back.
AFAIK Semor Kurdi fancies throwing away a lot of money like Mr. Beaumont.. If I was so successful i had £Millions spare I'd chuck it away on an RL club wouldn't you?
No point dying rich??
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| Quote: the artist "the problem with saying so and so should not be allowed in because they don't have a pot to tinkle in is that some clubs already in superleague are in a similar poor position financially. in order to exclude clubs who are not going to bring any value, you have to speak from a position of strength in the first place'"
I agree on the whole but it depends on how you define value. The issue per se isn't the length or population along the M62 corridor. It's long and there's millions of people, most of whom find the game drab because there are clubs who survive in SL who haven't won anything since the 50s, don't produce top class players and have few fans despite being in relatively large towns. They bring no value and contribute to the competition having little in the way of actual competition or excitement.
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| Quote: M@islebugs "I agree on the whole but it depends on how you define value. The issue per se isn't the length or population along the M62 corridor. It's long and there's millions of people, most of whom find the game drab because there are clubs who survive in SL who haven't won anything since the 50s, don't produce top class players and have few fans despite being in relatively large towns. They bring no value and contribute to the competition having little in the way of actual competition or excitement.'"
Go on then tell us who these clubs are that aren't worthy of super league status, and then just to cheer us up provide us with the names of the clubs who will be the saviour of it, many thanks in advance.
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| Quote: little wayne69 "Go on then tell us who these clubs are that aren't worthy of super league status, and then just to cheer us up provide us with the names of the clubs who will be the saviour of it, many thanks in advance.'"
The fact that you've responded suggests I don't need to. When I think of Saints, Leeds, Wire etc I don't think parochial M62 etc. Hull, Cas have an identity and a rich history of players, cup winning teams. Hull KR are regular strugglers but still have vibrancy and their fans care. I want to watch these teams on TV as they're an 'event'. London are important and I agree with the poster who said they should have stayed where they were building a fan base. York is a big city now and I enjoyed Leigh's all too brief sojourn in SL because of the enthusiasm. I think the above shows there is opportunity for expansion within the country and within the huge numbers of people who find clubs like Wakefield and Huddersfield as monochrome as I do. This Sporting Life. Moribund, a pair of concrete wellies as far as marketing the game.
And of course there's Bradford, whose rise and fall perfectly mirrors that of the fully professional game in this country.
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| Quote: M@islebugs "The fact that you've responded suggests I don't need to. When I think of Saints, Leeds, Wire etc I don't think parochial M62 etc. Hull, Cas have an identity and a rich history of players, cup winning teams. Hull KR are regular strugglers but still have vibrancy and their fans care. I want to watch these teams on TV as they're an 'event'. London are important and I agree with the poster who said they should have stayed where they were building a fan base. York is a big city now and I enjoyed Leigh's all too brief sojourn in SL because of the enthusiasm. I think the above shows there is opportunity for expansion within the country and within the huge numbers of people who find clubs like Wakefield and Huddersfield as monochrome as I do. This Sporting Life. Moribund, a pair of concrete wellies as far as marketing the game.
And of course there's Bradford, whose rise and fall perfectly mirrors that of the fully professional game in this country.'"
What a load of crap... Huddersfield have more local lads in their team than almost anyone... and much as I would welcome London back who wants another plastic pitch at a third rate RU ground.
Wakey have stayed in SL whilst Leigh and London have tried and failed so this post is not steeped in reality why should Wakey go either ??
SL will get cornered by the Wolfpack and get them back in SL at the threat of them folding rather than lose face when they do, so all this is irrelevant.
12 SL teams next year same as started this season.. you know I’m right .....
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| Quote: M@islebugs "The fact that you've responded suggests I don't need to. When I think of Saints, Leeds, Wire etc I don't think parochial M62 etc. Hull, Cas have an identity and a rich history of players, cup winning teams. Hull KR are regular strugglers but still have vibrancy and their fans care. I want to watch these teams on TV as they're an 'event'. London are important and I agree with the poster who said they should have stayed where they were building a fan base. York is a big city now and I enjoyed Leigh's all too brief sojourn in SL because of the enthusiasm. I think the above shows there is opportunity for expansion within the country and within the huge numbers of people who find clubs like Wakefield and Huddersfield as monochrome as I do. This Sporting Life. Moribund, a pair of concrete wellies as far as marketing the game.
And of course there's Bradford, whose rise and fall perfectly mirrors that of the fully professional game in this country.'"
Seems somebody else thinks your talking rubbish, nearly forgot, you never mentioned the teams you would introduce into your new exciting plans for super league.
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "What a load of crap... Huddersfield have more local lads in their team than almost anyone... and much as I would welcome London back who wants another plastic pitch at a third rate RU ground.
Wakey have stayed in SL whilst Leigh and London have tried and failed so this post is not steeped in reality why should Wakey go either ??
SL will get cornered by the Wolfpack and get them back in SL at the threat of them folding rather than lose face when they do, so all this is irrelevant.
12 SL teams next year same as started this season.. you know I’m right .....'"
Wakey should go for the reasons stated. Leigh and Bradford didn't finish bottom whereas Wakey did so on field results are entirely arbitrary in deciding and always have been. Considering the decline of the selling power of the game to broadcasters as has been suggested, the criteria for being in the elite league ought to consider what clubs bring to the comp apart from simply staying in it.
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| Quote: little wayne69 "Seems somebody else thinks your talking rubbish, nearly forgot, you never mentioned the teams you would introduce into your new exciting plans for super league.'"
Yes I did. Bradford for obvious reasons. London to maintain expansion. Leigh as they were contributed the last time they were in the league. And then further down the line York and Newcastle. I wouldn't consider Fev as they're too connected to Leeds and a bit Wakey-esque in image.
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "What a load of crap... Huddersfield have more local lads in their team than almost anyone... and much as I would welcome London back who wants another plastic pitch at a third rate RU ground. ...'"
The problem with Huddersfield is that as a visual spectacle for the sport, they are a huge negative with their empty stadium and, with it, the non existent atmosphere.
To be honest, they aren't the only ones with the issue of a ground that's too big for their means, but they are the one who seems to stand out, fairly or unfairly.
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| Quote: fartown since 1961 "What a load of crap... Huddersfield have more local lads in their team than almost anyone... and much as I would welcome London back who wants another plastic pitch at a third rate RU ground.
Wakey have stayed in SL whilst Leigh and London have tried and failed so this post is not steeped in reality why should Wakey go either ??
SL will get cornered by the Wolfpack and get them back in SL at the threat of them folding rather than lose face when they do, so all this is irrelevant.
12 SL teams next year same as started this season.. you know I’m right .....'"
Back up your statement about Huddersfield local lads in their team please
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Back up your statement about Huddersfield local lads in their team please'"
Jermayne McGillivary Leroy Cudjoe,, Innes Senior, Louis Senior Dom Young, Matty English,Michael Lawrence Darnell McIntosh Jake Wardle Sam Hewitt, Sam Wood and Jon Luke Kirby
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "The problem with Huddersfield is that as a visual spectacle for the sport, they are a huge negative with their empty stadium and, with it, the non existent atmosphere.
To be honest, they aren't the only ones with the issue of a ground that's too big for their means, but they are the one who seems to stand out, fairly or unfairly.'"
We won lost and won again our SL place as did the other 11 teams in SL including Toronto.
However we didn’t pull out of SL have fulfilled our fixtures and if we finish bottom next year rightly we will get relegated the current way to lose any teams SL place.
Currently the Daily Mirror are reporting that any Toronto takeover is subject to and viable only with full RL membership plus their full 1/12th share of the TV money.
So the mega NATV deal is well and truly gone? No player development and expensive trans Atlantic flights. Expansion my ass !!
Ironically Huddersfield is one of the few clubs who could currently get their 4,000 season ticket holders socially distanced in their ground !!!
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Wakey should go for the reasons stated. Leigh and Bradford didn't finish bottom whereas Wakey did so on field results are entirely arbitrary in deciding and always have been. Considering the decline of the selling power of the game to broadcasters as has been suggested, the criteria for being in the elite league ought to consider what clubs bring to the comp apart from simply staying in it.'"
It really is haunting you the fact we played and beat you to keep you in the championship, you had the chance but they blew it, since then it's got worse for you and your very lucky to even have a club.
Don't forget they was the rules at the time not us setting them but the RFL had they played to the rules of straight promotion and relegation yes we would of been down but it would of be Leigh coming up and Bradford would of missed again
You need to get over the loss
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| Quote: M@islebugs "Yes I did. Bradford for obvious reasons. London to maintain expansion. Leigh as they were contributed the last time they were in the league. And then further down the line York and Newcastle. I wouldn't consider Fev as they're too connected to Leeds and a bit Wakey-esque in image.'"
This is a bigger pile of crap than your last post
Bradford couldn't run a raffle without somebody nicking the proceeds and don't have a ground of their own so not sure what the obvious reasons are.
London were relegated simply because they weren't good enough, but by your reckoning surely Toulouse should be in front of them expansion wise.
Leigh tried and failed twice, but by your obscure criteria should be at the top of the pile but replacing who exactly?
York is a town that thinks it's a city, only thing going for them is a decent ground, and because Newcastle have a wealthy owner does that qualify them to jump up two divisions.
As for Fev being too Wakey-esque seems a bit of bitterness in there somewhere.
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