Reality and the 1960 pit villages are not the same. i applaud your tenacity, but you grasp on reality is a bit loose.

Bradford, Keighley, Doncaster, Widnes, you epitomise the xenophobe that holidays in Spain. I am glad our country has grown up.

And here we go again, you don't have any sensible argument for closing down the game here that gets TV deals and develops players, in favour of fantasy clubs so instead of demolishing the argument you try to demolish the person making it. Pretty ignorant cowardly and nasty way of doing things.

If TWP win today you will be trumpeting the future of the game lies in America. Despite the fact the winning club would be many $Millions in debt fast rising, would never be able to develop any pro players, and would surpress the presence of English clubs that have a 124 year record of success whilst Canada have failed as regards Rugby League for the last 90 odd years since the game was first introduced there.

You epitomise a dreaming troll.

What's your final vision for the game? Catalans Valencia, Belgrade, Ottawa, New York, Toulouse, Avignon, TWP, Vancouver, Boston, Leeds and Wigan.....Go on - tell me how that works?

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The only people "willing to gamble" are people dreaming and trolling on these internet sites - see above. Sure the editors of the RL press will keep on making noises about how we are missing opportunities in North America but despite the depth of knowledge of the game and some sort of proven business acumen they steer well clear of ever analysing for us how shutting down Cas, Wakey, Fartown, HKR, as pro clubs in favour of Ottawa Toulouse New York and Avignon, just as a start - as IR80 supports - will work.

Not that it can work.Superleague belongs to dreamers like Lenegan, McManus, Moran, Hudgell, Pearson, Davey, Carter Fulton etc. 2021 sees the end of the commitment that allowed TWP in.

Then the BIG DECISION will have to be made. Do we move the whole thing to North America??

More trolling.

History shaped the game as it is, a northern version of Rugby which has worked for 124 years and today is a professional game with professional players developed in the north, a solid and loyal fanbase, and the respect of sports TV with a sizeable TV deal, and northern businessmen who invest heavily.

Lets shut it down and move everyone to North America. Where will you be moving to to follow this??

I don't understand why you believe that the 80% of people who voted in the Hull poll now represent 80% of ALL Rl fans across England? That's a fair stretch.

Another genuine question. Has the Widnes academy closed since their relegation, and if not, what makes you believe that other academies of Super league clubs would close if they were relegated?

The problem with super league is that the Chairmen have to much power which leads to self interest and watching ones back therefore the stagnation of super league. Thankfully smart minds prevailed and Toronto got the green light which was a decision for the good of the entire game. They could see the negatives but also the positives.

Why don't we focus on the positives that most people see?

Are you trolling here? Or is your head so much in the expansion clouds that you think at the other end of the M62 80% of St. Helens fans want a Transatlantic league? That's a 3.000 mile stretch!!

Do you think St, Helens fans who watched the games at Leeds yesterday would prefer to play TWP and not get to play say Hull? Didn't you watch these games and thereby note the stark contrast between the phoney club and Hull, Leeds and Cas? Especially the number and the enthusiasm of the fans - are you blind and deaf? Or just trolling??

As for Bradford, Widnes and Newcastle running academies, they are doing this to qualify for Superleage 2022 when the SL chairmen and not the RFL will negotiate the English deal with the English broadcaster SKY who want a English league to attract English Subscribers, and English academies to produce the players. Are you naive? Do you think English clubs are now using their academies to provide North American clubs with players?

Your dreaming or trolling - whichever it is, is a very bad case and you need help.

Ooops more trolling or total naivety.

Those chairmen year on year put ££Millions into their clubs. They walk away and there is no game any more. They own it and pay for it, and they now negotiate the SKY deal for ttheir own clubs so I can guarantee you there is to be no transatlantic dream coming true any time now or in the future. TWP players are at best contracted to see it out to the end of 2021, if they avoid relegation this year they get a second year.

All Argyle has to do is find 11 more North American clubs, and highly rich Americans who can offer to triple the salaries of players here therefore bribing the playing stock of Superleague to go staff a north American League. All academies will then shut here and schools will turn to union. You at best are naive.

it was 80% of a very small sample.

It’s like 8 out of 10 cats.

Don't bracket me with yourself. Your the one trolling now there's no argument that TWP are somehow providing something wonderful to the game here.

No Player development ever
No Canadian TV money ever
No away fans
No glamour team
No marqueee players thrilling the crowd.
No academy
No reserves
No Eric Perez - given up and gone to Bradford Bulls
No players want to play for them unless they are heavily overpaid
No protected status in SL come the 2022 season
No English fans here impressed at all with what they saw sunday

It's an old Leigh team in disguise that actually live here and your still falling (sorry trolling) for it. I'd guess now they have seen it the 20 % of Hull based RL fans who thought it may be a good idea to have "American" teams may well have changed their view.

Now we have all seen the Transatlantic Dream in all it's glamorous action, perhaps we should re-visit the poll this weekend and ask 20.000 Hull and HKR fans should Hull.K.R stand down for the good of the game and allow New York to take their place next season so we can build on the overwhelming success of "transatlanticisation" that will save the game from dying here!

Shame it didn't feature Rachel Riley!