They have tried for donkeys years to get my team hull kr and hull fc to merge but nothing has come of it and nothing will I hope

Wouldn't try to second guess what the RFL might or might not do but I don't see how they could force two sides, both in private ownership, to merge. It might be that one or both could be displaced by expansion sides - equally by the likes of Bradford - but why that would pressurise the relegated side towards a merger I don't get. The relegated side would presumably press for re-admittance in the way cas, hkr, London and widnes have done and if they lacked the firepower to do so, surely they'd compete at a lower level as fax, Bradford et al. are doing now.

But if both were struggling both on the pitch and attendance-wise, it might be that a shared ground wouldn't be quite the no-no it would be now while the sides are playing well and pulling in ok-ish crowds.

Only way a ground share will ever happen is if there's no further progress for Wakefield next few years and the Cas development collapses. Then I reckon they'd sort out some joint project in Normy near the new police station or something.

Castleford's ground is bad enough, but it's a palace compared to that complete dive Wakefield call a stadium.

Everyone who I know whose been there absolutely slates the place. Hardly suprising with it's stands and facilities which are straight out of the 1930s. That tip is a stain on our sport.

Wakey have had a huge amount of time to improve their stadium or move to a new one it and have massively failed and don't look like sorting their issues out anytime soon. They need removing from Super League until they have a stadium fit for the competition. Lets face it, they've never brought too much to it anyway.

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London's team is bad enough, but they're Brisbane Broncos compared to that complete shower Widnes call a Super League squad.

Everyone I know who has watched them absolutely slates them. Hardly surprising with their coach and players which are straight out of the 1980s. That team is a stain on our sport.

Widnes have had since 2012 to improve their current players or buy some new ones and have massively failed and don't look like sorting their issues out anytime soon. They need removing from Super League until they have a team fit for the competition. Lets face it, they've never brought too much to it anyway.

(Thankfully my wish came true around September time. Enjoy the Championship, I'll be at Belle Vue watching Super League).

Genuinely though, how long is that “next few years”? I’d imagine if people thought back to late 2008 they would’ve said at least one of Wakefield or Castleford would have a new ground within the next decade. What’s to say we won’t reach 2028 in the same situation which really won’t be acceptable for a sport trying to move forward.

Maybe you should drop WMDC a line and tell them what a mickey poor organisation they are running.

It's no coincidence that both Wakefield and Cas have been stymied by our council's short comings.
Although this is a thread about Wakefield and Castlefords grounds, you really dont want chapter and verse on just how inept WMDC have been, do you ?

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Christ, we've even had the deputy council leader going to pres to promise a rebuild at BV for nobody to play at.
Not to mention the blatant flouting of the planning at Newmarket to get the oversized whit box built, without contributing to the triger point for the ground bulid. It's a bloody disgrace.

However long it takes Cas' project to get binned (if it does). I would say if there is nothing started there in two years then it's as good as done. If Wakefield have no progress at that point, then we are both at the same point and would probably start looking at some kind of ground share in a neutral area.

And you can think it's as unacceptable as you want, if either team was going to be kicked out for their ground it would have happened by now so you'll have to get used to it.

It genuinely wasn’t a having a pop attempt. It was a genuine question. I truly understand the hassle and grief the council have given as I posted very early in this thread about even Leeds getting for their stadium upgrades for years and it being so much hard work.

But again genuinely, how long do people think timewise this can go on EVEN if it’s not the clubs fault. This surely can’t be an continued issue 10 years from now where no progress has still been made?

Why can't it?
I won't like it but it won't stop me going to Belle Vue to watch Wakefield play.
Unless someone makes a new rule to say we can't play in SL unless we have a new stadium it is just down to how long we can squeeze out an income from it.
Fans not coming will be the main thing which of course is hurting us now but you can't put a time number on it.... Only a financial one.

People talk like Wakefield Trinity don't want a new or redeveloped stadium. Trinity are not the barrier to progress on the issue.

No-one wants a new stadium more than Trinity. Michael Carter is clear that it's the current stadium (and it's costs/income potential), that is preventing the club from making the next step on the field and commercially.

There's a massive undeveloped pit site at Sharlston, half way between Wakefield and Cas, but the only way it, or any other groundshare option is considered, is if the Cas project fails.

If Wakey's fails, WMDC/Box, will let them whither. If Cas's fails, WMDC/Box, will press for a shared middle ground, to sustain them.

I understand what you mean but you can’t forget that Trinity are at least in part a barrier because they effectively need someone else to pay for the stadium, or most of it anyway.

So whilst the Council are pillocks, this is still ultimately a mess of Trinity’s own making.

Name me one other club who have built a new ground or redeveloped the existing one without council or developer hand outs. You can’t and therefore it’s not trinity’s fault that the council are incompetent and the particular developers in our case are morally bankrupt.

How could the club have done things differently that would have changed the position?

That's an easy position to adopt from your ivory tower
Who else in SL built and/or owns their own ground ?

Leeds, St Helens, Cas ?

Warrington via a holding company ?

Hudds have a 20% stake in their football ground holding company
Hull council owned
Widnes council owned
Catalans council owned/local authority/whatever
Leigh council owned
HKR council owned
Salford rent from a 3rd party.
Wigan rent from a football club

The premier sport in the Wakefield district does not have a stadium in which to play it.
With the game being in the state it is and with neither Cas nor Wakey having enough conkers between them to build one their own, what is the answer.

The answer isn't "its their own fault" anymore than it was Hudds, Widnes, Cats, Leigh, Salford, HKR or Wigans own fault.