Of course you do. You were a champion team then.

But when Warrington lose they are known as 'choking it' or 'bottling it' yet Saints fans seem to have short memories and forget that they lost five on the bounce finishing 1st three times out of the five they lost.

I was astounded we made the final this year given where we finished last year and with a new coach coming in. I expected this season to be a transitional season and would have been happy just finishing in the 8. We've played with Kevin Brown and Tyrone Roberts at halfback all year and both have been very average (and that's being nice). It was always going to be a huge ask to beat a Wigan team full of champions who hadn't lost a game in their last 8 and were fully motivated with their two best players and their most successful Super League coach having their last game. This idea that we choked it is nonsense. We choked it in 2016 when we were two tries up and in control and should have won.

I'm more than happy with where we are at the minute and we are massively ahead of schedule and where i thought we would be. Hopefully with Blake Austin coming in next season he will take us to that next level.

I can't see Wigan being as good next year, same with Saints after losing Barba. Leeds will get better but again have a new coach. Cas will be up there again but they seem to let themselves down in the big games.

You get used to it, although I am getting sick of paying 50 odd quid to watch other teams pick up trophies

yup, i normally stay and clap them off regardless of the result and location. it stung a lot when manfredi went over for his second 3 minutes from time so i left at that point, and walked back to media city tram stop to beat the crush.

Its' about a 15 minute walk, and there were already wigan fans stood waiting when we got there.

I left straight after Manfredi scored also. Our coach was being leaving from just outside the Lowry/Media City and I too couldn't believe how many Wigan fans we walked past.

Imagine paying 50 notes to watch your beloved team win the biggest prize on offer to not watch them lift the trophy and celebrate. I don't understand it at all.

I do. Wigan fans expect their team to win and have seen it often enough. Lifting the big trophy is not a big deal for them as it would have been for our fans, had we won.

Rubbish. I'd never get bored of my team winning trophies no matter how many times they'd have won them previously. Winning titles and trophies is the pinnacle.

I left on the hooter after clapping the players off and made it out as Tomkins got on the mic (before the trophy was lifted) and by the time i got to the Met stop i saw absolutely loads of Wigan "fans" well ahead of me in the queue for the Met and saw them at the eateries half way through a burger or chips as i walked down Warwick Road before that too.

They must have left at 8-4 never mind after the Manfredi try, or the hooter, and certainly never mind to see their team lift the trophy in their most successful coach (for a quarter of a century)'s final game.

Very bizarre behaviour. There weren't just the odd one or two, it was bloody LOADS!

I left on the Manfredi try and when coming down the stairs was next to LOTS of Wigan fans. I asked them why they were leaving and told them to get back into the stadium as they'd just won the title - was just met with shrugs, I found it offensive to be honest. Now obviously Wigan have won LOADS and maybe it does get a bit repetitive but I'm glad I'm a Wire and not one of that lot as despite the constant heartache IF we finally get over the line it'll mean much, much more than any of them can clearly comprehend. Strange bunch.

I have heard of Wigan fans leaving before the end of games but just dismissed it as sour grapes from fans of other clubs.
However, I went to see HullFC play in Australia this year. I watched the game at the ANZ stadium and then watched the Wigan game until half time, at which point we left, my wife and I are not exactly in the first flush of youth ( in our seventies) and it was getting rather late. On the train going back to Sydney Central were a few Wigan fans? I can understand Hull fans leaving early, but why travel 12500 miles to see your team and leave at half time?

Force of habit

This aged well.

Melo'd with age?

Or had a name change.