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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I was firmly of the view that officials should be neutral NOT because I thought they'd cheat, but because the officials ought to be seen to be independent.'"

Agreed.

Perhaps England could provide the lead with a genuine campaign for neutral referees?

Their usual effort to get one of their own refs selected instead doesn't appear to be a very successful strategy.

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Quote: Renegade "If the reason they didn't give the try is because the referees would fear for their careers after this, bending the rules so Australia make a final - something that happens regularly, then we should scrap all internationals right now. Such corruption would be absurd.

Fortunately I don't believe this. I'm all for neutral referees, but seeing as the Aussies don't give a poop about the international game I doubt it would "ruin their careers".'"


Why then do Australia insist on (And get) Australian referees whenever they feel slightly worried about a game?

There are so many stupid quirks about this weekend. The referees were neutral last week. Australia lost. If they lost again they were out. So the referees were no longer neutral. Not only were they not neutral, they were related, which was absolutely ridiculous and a clear conflict of interests.

The reasoning given to the players was that the ball was moving upwards, that there was effectively no downward pressure because of this. The video evidence they showed over and over again and which is all over the internet shows conclusively that the ball was well sunk into the grass with absolutely no hint of it being on the rise. It was a ridiculously poor decision if it was a genuine decision and the reasoning given suggests they knew that.

If that incident happened in Origin or the NRL, it's given as a try. Plenty of evidence for that on the internet too. England need to kick up a fuss about it.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Should just be set in stone with no room for manoeuvre for the future...

Eng vs Aus
Set in stone until either England or Australia whinge about the performance of the Kiwi referee who is accused of being incompetent and out of his depth at international level.

Cue immediate abandonment of neutral refereeing policy as a matter of urgency.

Quote: ThePrinter "They might not like it but after today and the NZ ref's performance in the 2011 Eng/Aus game at Wembley I can't say their ref's impressed me any more or looked any better.'"

Translation: We want an English ref.

Normal service resumed.

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Quote: William Eve "Translation

We could just claim one of them is from Wales.

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Quote: William Eve "Set in stone until either England or Australia whinge about the performance of the Kiwi referee who is accused of being incompetent and out of his depth at international level.

Cue immediate abandonment of neutral refereeing policy as a matter of urgency.

Translation

So a French Elite 1 ref

Sorted

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If the same incident had happened in the NRL or in State of Origin then it's a definite try, and the media over there would be talking about how it was a miraculous try to manage to put it down from that position.

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Quote: Starbug "So a French Elite 1 ref

Sorted'"

Hardly sorted.

Same would apply.

French ref deemed incompetent and out of his depth by England or Australia or both.

Cue immediate abandonment of policy on neutral referees.

International RL wouldn't be the absolute joke it is today if it wasn't for the English and the Australians.

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Quote: William Eve "Set in stone until either England or Australia whinge about the performance of the Kiwi referee who is accused of being incompetent and out of his depth at international level.

Cue immediate abandonment of neutral refereeing policy as a matter of urgency.

Translation

Oh goody, William needs attention icon_smile.gif

A NZ ref will do btw, we'll bemoan poor calls (nature of sport). In fact I'd rather have one, I reckon an English ref would be too worried about being accused of favouring England that he'd give the opposition more just to look impartial.

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Quote: William Eve "Hardly sorted.

Same would apply.

French ref deemed incompetent and out of his depth by England or Australia or both.

Cue immediate abandonment of policy on neutral referees.

International RL wouldn't be the absolute joke it is today if it wasn't for the English and the Australians.'"


Incompetant or out of depth is better than biased or scared/corrupt

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I am so used to seeing two video refs on Sky games.
Is there only one in internationals?
If so ...why?

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Quote: Stand-Offish "I am so used to seeing two video refs on Sky games.
Is there only one in internationals?
If so ...why?'"

We want two Sky video refs in internationals!

Perhaps you could start a campaign?

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Quote: ThePrinter "A NZ ref will do btw, we'll bemoan poor calls (nature of sport).'"

rlMeanwhile, in the real world...rl

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Quote: William Eve "rlMeanwhile, in the real world...rl'"


Thanks for providing a link that provides nothing to the debate.

Duly noted and all that.

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Quote: ThePrinter "Thanks for providing a link that provides nothing to the debate.

Duly noted and all that.'"

Clearly NZ refs will not do.

Feel free to flap your wings again though.

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Quote: JB Down Under "Final proof
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I can't believe the number of people moaning about this picture CLEARLY showing a British finger on the ball who haven't once commented on the fact that an Australian finger is also CLEARLY on the ball.

Blaming the video ref and the penalty count just excuses away the woeful performance of our halves in the second half.

They were utterly outclassed in terms of tactical thinking, organisation and cool.

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