Exact same eh? In which threads? Barnet or London's future expansion?
This is a thread about the favouritism shown to Bradford bulls by the RFL but rather than discuss it, some posters would rather muddy the waters because they worship Nigel and the iconic bulls

Exactly.

The perceived favouritism shown to Bradford. But as there hasn't been a club in the same position Bradford has been in, it's hard to actually justify the claim that the Bulls are getting preferential treatment. But please Gutterfax, give us examples of where the Bulls have been on the receiving end of something no other RL club have had from the RFL.

Possibly a substancial loan made to them with no genuine collateral?

Anything to prove no other club has been on the receiving end of similar loans?

No , but no proof they have either

The Bradford loan, we know about, to automatically assume others have had similar substancial amounts loaned without any proof is crazy

are you 5 years old?
The defence of "they did it first" is something I expect from Junior school Kids. You are in denial to the extent you should seek medical help if you think the amount of assistance dealt out to the Bradford Bulls since the start of the 2012 season isn't a clear example of favouritism.
I care not if the Failed Crusaders from Wales were bailed out to the tune of millions....it's not relevant in a thread about the 2006 World Club Champions and how the RFL has bent over backwards in supporting them, to the extent that if the Bulls go tits up now, then the RFL will have a whopping great white elephant in the shape of a leasehold on a property that would do well to see 5k crowds in the lower divisions.
I have suspicions as to the actual amount of money given to the London Broncos by the RFL on an annual basis, but that too has no place in this particular debate.
Neither does the atrocious treatment of Wakefield, who found themselves having to cut their cloth and sell players to ensure they survived, whilst Bradford Bulls shamelessly shook a bucket and begged for support from anyone who would listen.

Most SL clubs are run appallingly, of that there is no doubt, but currently, Bradford get the full attention of their LANDLORDS whilst other clubs get the occasional visit from Blake Solly.

BTW, I will continue to post comments about summer concerts as a cornerstone of the Bradford Bulls v.6 (or is it v.7) business plans, because it shows how out of his depth Whitcut was in planning them and how out of his depth Moore is for supporting them! Call it what you want, it is still true!

But the only reason Bradford's came to light is because they weren't in a position to pay it back. To assume Bradford are the only club to get a loan of this type is foolhardy. Also rlBradford aren't the only club to have had a loan from the RFLrl

Correct, which is why I stated ' genuine collateral ' , keep proving my point if you like

Anyone know how much the RFL loan to Wakefield is and what it is secured against?

continuing to point at other clubs will not detract or distract us from the topic under discussion. HTH

Bradford Bulls, with a perfectly acceptable seasons average of 8,500 managed to find themselves absolutely in the ter by August 2013....12 months after OK rode in on his white Charger and 18 months after the RFL played musical chairs with loans, cash advances and ground leases and let's not forget the all important half a million bucket shake!

In August 2013 OK apparently injected either cash, or access to cash worth 900k.....but not 4 months later, there is no money available and 2014 will be run on a shoestring, but still, rather than do the decent thing and cut their cloth accordingly, they are looking for ways to have their cake and eat it.

I suspect that 400k is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to shortfalls in funding for the coming season....they started 2013 with a clean bill of health yet were close to 7 figures in a whole 6 months later and with no change in attitude other than making hard working club staff redundant rather than shedding players, I can see little change in the prognosis for 2015 and beyond!

Not surprised that sponsors are still on board though.....Bradford Bulls haven't had these column inches for close to 8 years now

How is what I said a defence of "they did it first"? You said there's favouritism towards Bradford, I asked you to proved evidence to back this up. You haven't, instead prefer to go down the personal attack rather than back up your comments, in typical troll fashion.



So, another club who had similar problems to Bradford and who WERE shown favouritism from the RFL aren't relevant to this? Really? No, you don't care about that as it undermines any point you're trying to make about Bradford getting preferential treatment. But again, you go about favouritism to Bradford and yet consistently ignore requests to justify this. As for the leasehold on a prime piece of real estate on the end of the M62? Yeah, the RFL will have a real problem shifting it if the Bulls fold entirely.
Right, so you say Bradford should cut their cloth accordingly, but then think that mocking them for then doing that isn't trolling?

Odsal is a dump and a massive drain on the clubs resources. It gets used barely 20 times a year but needs constant upkeep to keep it in a state fit for purpose. Last year, for example there was the best part of 2 months where the Bulls had no home game, therefore no real income. But you feel that a club that then tries to improve it's income streams by staging things like concerts and getting some use out of the stadium that's burning up the clubs money is a BAD thing? Really?

Yes, I'll admit that the concert put on wasn't successful, but to slag the club off for even trying it? That's just foolish.

But anyway, lets see if we can't check off your points

Bradford have gotten, in your opinion, favourable treatment from the RFL, but you refuse to acknowledge or even discuss OTHER clubs, including your own, who have clearly been given just if not more favourable treatment.

Bradford get money off the RFL, but you refuse to acknowledge or even discuss OTHER clubs, including your own, who have or might likely be getting money off the RFL.

Bradford should cut their cloth accordingly and should be forced to sell players, ignoring facts again there as Bradford HAVE sold players, who are arguably two of their best home grown prospects. You also mock the club for attempting to improve it's income streams.

I think that about covers your bias and willfully ignorant points.

Yes...let's. And remember, this is a thread about Nigel Wood and the Bulls.


No. I said that what had happened to other clubs was irrelevant in the context of this thread. Bradford have had loans, advances and a ground leased and rented back to them for a peppercorn figure and inside 12 months of this happening still came up close to 7 figures short. Not sure of how many times these other clubs you allude to have had to come back for more "assistance" but I am pretty sure it's not an annual occurrence!


Firstly, I said I have suspicions about London. Like the other suspicions I have heard thrown about over the years, these are unfounded (at the time of typing they are nearly not) but they are at the moment, suspicions. Wales and the other clubs were loans that are/were not dependant on the loanee remaining in Superleague so as to not leave the RFL with a massive hole in their finances as well as the one on the ground. Also, whilst other clubs have wobbled, they have made cuts to suit their budgets......Bradford have laid off staff left, right and centre, but retain the core of their squad. Their squad is their only asset but rather than strip that back, the new new, new new, new (is there another one in there?) owners are trying to get the previous owner to walk away close to 7 figures down after 15 months
Yes, this thread is about Nigel Wood and the Bulls. But YOU have asserted that the Bulls have had preferential treatment that no other club has had access to. Then you refuse to even acknowledge those clubs that have also had help from the RFL and what has happened there purely because it DOES damage your argument that Bradford are alone in having any sort of hand up from the RFL. Ignoring something because it damages your argument IS willful ignorance.

You might know stuff, but I doubt your actual knowledge extends to what is actually happening at Bradford despite you trying to imply otherwise.