Don't they also pay another £100k in a years time? Sure i read that somewhere.

I'm happy my taxes are going to help an "iconic club" rise from the ashes.

I feel Bullish.

The game has deeply embedded trust issues, Maurice Watkins stated as such in his review document after taking over as interim chairman following Lewis's departure. He said....

[iIt is apparent that there are issues around trust which need to be addressed, both in terms of relationships between clubs, and between the clubs and the governing body. There is confusion about where decisions are made and by whom, and a perception that the governing body is not as open as it could be in communicating its decisions and the rationale for making them.[/i

The RFL simply spin everything these days. Remember the new TV deal being hailed as a triumph ? Turns out its exactly the same as the old deal, just as an example.

None of what is now happening should come as a surprise to anyone.

But the RFL make good profits so none of that matters. Please stop criticising the RFL - it upsets people.

You cant run a competition on "it depends" that is just nonsense.
Although there does have to be discression in certain circumstances, there also has to be a set of rules laid down, which form the basis of any competition.
One of the gripes that many people have with SL is the perceived closed shop and the imbalance in the treatment of certain clubs (not just Bradford btw)

What do you think the outside world think of us (the ones that actually notice) ?

Quite simply who might be available to replace the Bulls should not be part of the decision of wether the Bulls retain a licene

Issue 1 ,the Bulls have shown gross missmanagement and brought the game into disrepute , does that disrepute deserve a loss of licence? That is the 1 st issue

Issue 2 , if the Bulls lose their licence, then and only then should the issue of who gets tgeir licence be decided

The RFL are going to use the supposed failings of Championship Clubs as the reason for Bradford to remain in SL, and that is fundamentally WRONG

The RFL executives are well paid, it is their decision, they should not be trying to deflect the responsibilty onto other people at Championship Clubs

Bang on the money Mr Starbug

Mr Khan has stated he intends to invest 6 million pounds into Odsal , will he still do this if they lose their SL licence ?

So the RFL will be judging the Bulls [ complete with all their historical ' plusses ' ] as well as the requirement to pay back the ' advanced ' monies and now a promised 6 Million investement , against 3 Championship clubs ?

What is the point ?

This thread has degenerated into nothing more than the equivalent of three or four Pythonesque bitter old men sitting in an allotment trying to outdo each other as who feels the most aggrieved about it all. Just run a poll.

I'm focussing on the issue at hand. And it's hardly like I'm pushing some spurious or irrelevant detail.

Licences are awarded based on assessment of Business Management, Facilities, Finance, Commercial/Marketing/Community and Playing Strength/Performance. It's a huge facet of licensing and it seems for SL clubs there is no minimum standard. Something of an issue IMO.

A Championship club that had been insolvent since 2008 could not apply for a licence in the current round.



Okay, so there are no rules and this would merely be an obvious breach of principle (perhaps not from your POV, as you seem reconciled with the idea/fact that licensing was always all about pragmatism rather than principle). So we have a system with neither rules nor principles. That can only be a good thing. I mean, is it any wonder the RL family is so dysfunctional?

Unlike SL ,this thread is not a closed shop, feel free to have your twopenneth

No , just give you the licence now and have done with it

I doubt we could even agree on how to frame the question.

Mine would be:

Which of the following should the RFL retain?

A. The Bradford Bulls in SL

or

B. Licensing

Did he say he wouldn't? If they do, what do you think he will do - write off the money he has put in? Please at least [itry[/i to think about what you type.
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