You could say the same the other way though to be fair. Some of the bile poured out by some of the pro-expansion lot on here has also been embarrassing. Luckily that has also been countered by reasoned argument.

We'll go with the patented Wellsy13 rugby league opinions continuum:

|---------------------------------x-----------------------------------|
Pro Heartlands.................................................................Pro Expansion
(a.k.a. "flatcapper"icon_wink.gif...................................................(a.k.a. "expansion*zi)

The day that everyone realises we need to be sitting somewhere in the middle (i.e. somewhere at x) is the day that rugby league will progress quickest! Because then we have a little something for everyone!

And the reason for that being most of them tend not to have a club to follow, or aren't that bothered about them that much.
The most of the pro heartlands lot tend to be more insular about it and whinge amongst themselves about how everyone is trying to ruin the game and they don't like change.

I think we need a name for the people that sit in the middle! You argue with one and they call you the other when we are not either of them.

Flansionists?

Sounds too much like "flange-tionist" to me!

Flatspansionazer?

Or perhaps a word that has nothing to do with either! This is insania!

fans?





… just a thought …

Reasoned argument such as the Celtic Crusaders were a good idea?

Ever thought that a lot of the bile came because of a poorly thought out decision?

I could support the Eskimos, it matters not.

Celtic were not ready for SL, are not ready not ready for SL, and will not be ready for SL until someone further up the foodchain than me and you looks at it properly.

Relying on a bloke who has form for throwing his toys out of the pram to run a club younger than some of my underpants, with a team full of imports, in a RU heartland that has had numerous RL failures in the past was a recipe for disaster if it wasn't done properly. I know it, you know it, my favorite Eskimo's know it, and now bit by bit it's being proven.

If RFL and SL monies have to fund it by say £3m a year for the next 5 or 10 years then so be it, bring it on - stop dancing around and hiding behind the farcical bull@hit they have generated and do it properly, out in the open for all to see.

"We need expansion and the game is going to pay for it". Lets see just how big their balls are and how much SL clubs [ireally[/i want expansion then.

I'd say we're certainly in danger of it if the move to Wrexham is confirmed (as now seems likely). However, the implication that they would roam at will outside of Wales is what I had a problem with.

Not really much of an excuse, is it? Not for adults anyway.

Please god let the press announcement be about players not moving the club to the other end of Wales!

I'd agree with that

It also presumes that no bile came the other way which is of course nonsense. I was also suggesting that much of it wasn't bile at all but a genuine grievance at a poor decision. Expansionists really struggled to see the difference between this and bile.

why bother doing that? its much better to use someone elses money,

why waste the limited resources the RFL have when Leighton Samuel and now others are happy to use theirs?

also: why is there always a random 'thing' either a club or the RFL need to do to to make expansion acceptable? its always different and there is always some 'thing' someone needs to do and then everything is alright