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| Quote Marsdengiant="Marsdengiant"The licences should make it easier for clubs to get their quota + non fed to 6. Despite this wakey continue to chase a macedonian passport. They hold onto journeyman exemptions. This is the approach of your club, maintained over several years. Bringing Winterstein over for 5 SL games while Pitts and Bibb were farmed out demonstrates the wakey approach.
You said the RFL were 'pleased with' your academy development. Then you may also know what the RFL think about so many non fed players in a squad.
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Just out of interest, how many players do Huddersfield have in their 1st team squad, that came through their academy system?
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| Quote Tommy Duckfingers="Tommy Duckfingers"So, does Wigan count or not?
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Can't comment on some of the names at the bottom of the list. (there could be some 'Wintersteins' in there). There looks to be 9 non fed trained and one of those (Smith) will not be there in 2010.
Happy for you to name the 10+ non fed trained.
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| Quote The Devil's Advocate="The Devil's Advocate"Just out of interest, how many players do Huddersfield have in their 1st team squad, that came through their academy system?'"
Try the Giants website and a little research if no one on here can be bothered to do it for you.
I have been delighted watching the likes of Jacko/ Eorl/ Raleigh/ Cudjoe / Lawrence playing regularly in 09. Plus thought the likes of Elliot Hodgson showed promise on his mom winning debut versus Saints on Sky.
The value of good quality overseas signings has played its part. For example Lawrence has learned much from Fatz a NZ international while Cudjoe and E Hodgson have learned much from a player like Brett Hodgson. Rarely would much be learned from a journeyman.
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| Quote Marsdengiant="Marsdengiant"I suspect , not.
Can't comment on some of the names at the bottom of the list. (there could be some 'Wintersteins' in there). There looks to be 9 non fed trained and one of those (Smith) will not be there in 2010.
Happy for you to name the 10+ non fed trained.'"
I think Tommy is classed as fed trained also tbh so that means 8. Down to 7 next season with Tim Smith leaving.
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Player Coach | 14152 | Wakefield Trinity |
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| Quote Marsdengiant="Marsdengiant"The licences should make it easier for clubs to get their quota + non fed to 6. Despite this wakey continue to chase a macedonian passport. They hold onto journeyman exemptions. This is the approach of your club, maintained over several years. Bringing Winterstein over for 5 SL games while Pitts and Bibb were farmed out demonstrates the wakey approach.
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Pitts signed for Leeds, he wasn’t ‘farmed out’ as you put it. Bibb plays prop and was well down the pecking order mid season hence the loan spell with HKR. Winterstein (which incidentally I was against the signing) plays SR. These players leaving had nothing to do with Wintersteins brief stint at BV.
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| Quote Khlav Kalash="Khlav Kalash"Pitts signed for Leeds, he wasn’t ‘farmed out’ as you put it. Bibb plays prop and was well down the pecking order mid season hence the loan spell with HKR. Winterstein (which incidentally I was against the signing) plays SR. These players leaving had nothing to do with Wintersteins brief stint at BV.
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5 games for Winterstein suggests he was an overseas player flown across the world to be well down the pecking order.  Pitts and Bibb were under contract to wakey, your club chose to farm them out and bring in FW.
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| Quote Grego="Grego"I think Tommy is classed as fed trained also tbh so that means 8. Down to 7 next season with Tim Smith leaving.'"
Cheers.
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Player Coach | 1253 | Wakefield Trinity |
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| sean gleeson
dale ferguson
luke george
aaron murphy
kyle bibb
jay pitts
dale morton
all young british players pushing for regular first team places in the last season plus seven new academy signings.
the wakefield production line just keeps rolling 
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| Quote captaincaveman="captaincaveman"sean gleeson
dale ferguson
luke george
aaron murphy
kyle bibb
jay pitts
dale morton
all young british players pushing for regular first team places in the last season plus seven new academy signings.
the wakefield production line just keeps rolling
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sean gleeson - Wigan Warriors
luke george - Huddersfield
aaron murphy - Leeds Rhinos
kyle bibb - Hull FC
HTH.
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| Quote Wadski="Wadski"sean gleeson - Wigan Warriors
luke george - Huddersfield
aaron murphy - Leeds Rhinos
kyle bibb - Hull FC
HTH.'"
All playing at which club again??
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| Quote Marsdengiant="Marsdengiant"Do try and learn the rules about players on one year loans then you will not make this simple mistake. HTH'"
My point was that if you had not "loaned" him to us he his your player and would therefore count on your list. When his loan is up he will go back to you and count on your list.
You conveniently sidestepped the main point of my post which was that in terms of numbers there isn't actually a great deal of difference between your club and ours.
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| Quote Tricky2309="Tricky2309"My point was that if you had not "loaned" him to us he his your player and would therefore count on your list. When his loan is up he will go back to you and count on your list.
You conveniently sidestepped the main point of my post which was that in terms of numbers there isn't actually a great deal of difference between your club and ours.'"
But he is loaned to you.tThat is the actual state of affairs rather than the fantasy one in your head. His loan is not up for a year. At the end of it we do not know who will be loaned out / retained or OOC. I doubt that even you know
For years your club has appeared to have a high number of non fed trained players. The wintestein episode was a farce and so to is the Stosic escapade.
The actual difference - based on player contracts not your fantasy - is that the Giants have 7 and you have 10 and want an 11th.
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