I don't like the idea of the coach having a rolling one year contract.

If we are saying that players going drinking show that coaches are no good, then sack em all.

There are plenty of club coaches in fact all of them who have players who don't toe the line. There is not one coach in RL that has not had a naughty boy or set of naughty boys to deal with.

To put things into perspective, McNamara has been in charge for 4 autumn series (2010-2013) and has played Australia 4 times and NZ 3 times - 7 in total.

Brian Noble was in charge for 3 years (2004-2006) and played Australia 7 times (2 wins) and NZ 7 times (4 wins) - 14 in total.

You have a lot more chance of beating them if you play them more often. Even with a 4N campaign next year he will have played Aus/NZ 4 times less despite being in charge for 2 more seasons.

Hahaha..point proven, Noble 6 wins out of 14 against 1 win in 7 for Bananaman (who aregueably has a far superior squad of players comparatively)
That makes Noble 3 times better than bananaman against the top 2 teams, how many times have we beaten Australia of late? NONE, ZERO, NADA, NIL, ZILCH, not even when they were massively underdone...
Mcbanana should fall on his sword, it's the last and only decent toption he can do now. To take a wage fro the RFL coffers is just an insult to the fans and the players, the guy is competely out of his depth both from a rugby POV and and as a man manager/dealing with media POV..

Could have done with a side swipe from Tanya Arnold, so Steve..at least I'll be in a job next month, how about you...LMFAO

Blimey, you're mature aren't you.

Right, so a humorous little jibe is immature now

, you need a sense of humour transplant clearly (as you have NONE, ZILCH, NADA, ZERO, NIL) nor a grasp of irony given ickle Stevie's immature festering turd of a response to her on live TV

I've got a sense of humour ta.

And yes name calling and writing 'LMFAO' after a sentence (a pretty unfunny one at that)is pretty immature.

Or England's lack of wins against Australia could have coincided with Slater, Inglis, Hodges, Thurston, Cronk, Smith, Thaiday etc. becoming regular members of the Kangaroo team. Also coincided with Queensland dominating State of Origin for 7/8 years (can also throw Lockyer into that mix).

Great point.and the Kiwis are as strong as I can ever remember.

Beat me to it. A quick glance at some of the NZ teams that Noble "masterminded" victories against makes for interesting reading. They are simply not even close to the current team.

Biff,

Where do Noble's teams stand against the current one? Could the same advancements be said for England as were for the NZ teams? Genuine question, not looked at the teams Noble lead out.

The current team is stronger overall, no doubt about that. But those teams still contained players like Farrell, Sculthorpe, Morley, Peacock etc etc. That's why comparing results of different coaches against the "same" teams a difficult one, and why the earlier suggestion that Noble is 3 times the coach that Mcnamara is because he won more games against Australia and NZ is just daft.

That's what I though might be the case. It's like comparing players today from the game in the 50's and 60's. It can't be done, you are only as good as the time you played in/coached in and to that you can only measure against your peers at the time. So whilst McNamara's record is not good against Aus and NZ it has risen over the seven games from being absolute hidings to being quite close against NZ and improved against Aus.

I would love to see how it measures against an Aus side that has been in camp for a few weeks though, that would be a better acid test than the first game of the tournament. Same with England mind, they looked very sharp against NZ and that was after several weeks together and after jettisoning the Maori.