SRC if your making that much money why is their talk of not bothering with reserves? Why haven't you stepped up stadium redevelopment? Why isn't their a youth system to capture these youngsters?

At the end of the day that's what will get you into SL. People questioned are figured but at least you can show where it's being used. Surely with this much coming in means you have top class sponsors also and real SL ambitions?

I believe they are a Huddersield fan if that helps.

What you spending your ' million ' profit on ?

Possibly replacing the million you lost the previous year

Are you his agent ?

Fair enough we are trying as you say.

while i can't comment on your turnover, barrow posted a profit of 23,811 (this was after winning 100k in the grand final). you also have a bank overdraft of 138k to service with barclays bank plc(this increased dispite the profit). your trading losses sit at 600k and your insolvent by 110k. given you claim your stadium is worth 5m, you have to wonder why barrow simply do not take out a commercial mortgage and bring the ground up to standard?

it would also stand to reason that figure would be worse in 2010 as your season came no where near the hights of 2009 although it will be a while to see them given 2010 has not ended yet

Not neccessarily , it could be dependant on win and final position bonuses , therefore they could perform better financially

This is one of the anomolies of a ' sports business ' , you can be highly successful and lose millions and everybody is happy , yet you do that in a real business and you wont be around for long

you arent going to half built stadiums though other than salford and saints, and they are staying in SL.

by the time the franchise decisions are made wakey wont have started construction making the rfls decision an easy one

then wakey have 3 years to get the stadium built whilst they are in the champ. and then put pressure on any poor SL clubs

there isnt the money atm to expand the number of clubs

1. tiny population
2. poor ground
3. no rich sugar daddy
4. would struggle in SL

the game has far better options to go too know.

you dont want to be letting in more small town clubs with poor stadiums and finances who cant challenge the top clubs.

as an example of a small club which has done well in SL i refer to Hull KR.

they are doing it because they know if they dont eventually theyll be replaced in SL.

ie because of franchising.

if relegation was just based on playing form they would spend all their money on players to lessen the chance of relegation and not a cent on the ground

Purely assisting with your question.

There's no way anyone could really, also you have to sign a disclaimer to say you accept decision to even apply.

If anyone did try to sue for loss of monies due to relegtion the RFL could sue back as they got monies for this current franchise round based on false promises anyway.

DES Johnson is a very rich man who ploughs money in to barrow. The border raiders are a good club and one I'd be happy to see in super league. For me the game needs a Cumbrian representative in the top tier, the area is a hit bed of rugby league talent with some excellent amateur teams up there.

Just thought i'd clear that up for you

The thing is was Dez really pooring money into Barrow Raiders RLFC? Or just into the pockets of the first team, full stop?

All loans and overdrafts are serviced religiously (just like most people's mortgages) and we make a profit. That's how most businesses are run.

Regarding a mortgage to bring Craven Park up to standard, that is exactly what would happen if the club was [iguaranteed[/i a SL place. Undertaking such a financial risk without the prospect of SL would be financial suicide and a risk that no-one at Barrow RL would be willing to take. Unfortunately some of the current SL teams are doing just that - selling the family silver.

Although we didn't win the GF in 2010, we had a good Challenge Cup run and made a fair few bob from that. We are one of the few teams in RL who are financially stable and don't have recent Administrations blackening their history.

Barrow borough has a population comparable or larger than Widnes, Leigh, Halifax, Castleford and Wakefield to name a few and has no pro RL club within a 90 minute car journey. The catchment area stretches much further.

We have as much, if not more to offer SL than several of the current incumbents.

2012 is probably too soon, but to dismiss the chance of Barrow ever getting into SL is plainly ridiculous.