Zero game ban for FPN. Great stuff.

As full a quota as possible for the semi.

I hope Lenagan has sent the gift baskets out by special delivery.

yep there will be no excuses when Hull rip you a new hole

The mystery virus may make a return or wane will blame the officials for allowing hull to slow the ruck down

No charge for Ablett either. How can this sport get any more embarrassing.

Stefan ratchford, 2013 Grand Final, two up top and Harrison Hansen comes in at an odd angle from behind through what was designated his hip and deemed a legal challenge. But Hansen took his leg out and he fell so awkwardly with two tacklers on top, and one underneath pushing his leg in a different direction, it was so awkward looking you could imagine it on a fail army video on YouTube.

Yeah injuries do happen, I understand that, see the boudebza tackle, I think that was an accident, and didn't deserve 4 games, but the type of thing you see repeatedly in wigan is the lunging really hard with the shoulder at the knees and lower unexpectedly.

That's all I'm talking about

And speaking of pointless responses, having read this again, you seem to be addressing something the rest of us aren't talking about.

You're just not getting it are you? We're talking about coached "tactics" of continual foul play, purposely attempting to injure "road kill" to put up on changing room and training ground walls. Week-after-week the same type of tackling throughout the team. Not individual incidents like an eye gouge by one Leeds player or Westwoods' punch on Green in the '13 GF that Wigan fans always seem to bring up as their defence of their "tactics". These are just stupid brain farts that are terrible incidents but they are not part of a club ethos.

I've made my thoughts on Shaun Wanes position at Wigan very clear on our forum.

It isn't gonna stop me coming on here laughing at all the foaming mouthed Wigan haters roaming about spouting nonsense.

Most with the well thought out chant.....Yawkshire...Yawkshire...Yawkshire...circling around their brainless skulls.

Yet when Flower had a "brain fart" it was a sign of how Wane coached the whole team. You can't have it both ways.

I'm definitely more attentive at games (which being in London I don't often get to do so) and I counted 2 for both Wigan and Saints of players going in at the knees of a stood up opponent at an angle. Mossop and Isa were the culprits on Wigans end, not sure of the Saints players but possibly second rowers? Tomkins' "horrendous" high tackle wasn't cited yet Matty Flemmings tackle in the air earned him a caution. They're under the microscope without a doubt, some of it justified - I remember a few game trot where quite a few players were chicken winging but then some of it is stuff happens week in week out at every game but Wigan are the ones who get brandished "thugs" for doing it.

I'm not going to say they're not deliberately not coached because I simply don't know - All I will say is if Wigan are they certainly aren't the only ones.

The "Roadkill Achieved" actually went hand in hand with a picture of a Wigan player, ball in hand, who'd steamrollered a defender - hence roadkill. Wether that makes the poster better or not I don't know but I'd certainly like to think professionals in the sport can work out a bit of hyperbole.

Current Discipline Referrals (approx) after 23 gamesWigan 55
Wakefield 54
Hull KR 48
Catalans 42
Warrington 40
Huddersfield 39
Castle ford 38
Salford 38
Leeds 35
Hull 33
St Helens 30
Widnes 29

Problem for Wakey our players tend to get the maximum punishment for the grade of offence