FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Saints at it again...
31 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player80No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 20223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2022Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Moe syslak "Sambou is a class player. His younger brother Dayon(also at Saints)is even better. Two more Warrington lads we missed out on! Been disappointed with what i've seen of Sambou so far

RankPostsTeam
International Star17980
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: Trainman "To be honest (and it pains me to say it) I agree with Woolf on this one.

I don’t believe the Easter schedule is right for the game and hasn’t been for some time. Matches are too intense and players need proper recovery time.

I don’t know the stats but I’d wager more injuries than average occur around Easter and the weeks afterwards.

IMO one of the reasons we lose to Australia is fatigue due to the significant number of extra games we play.

I think it’s a shame for the fans who have booked time off work and bought tickets in advance to watch what is essentially an academy side and also unfair on Castleford who will no doubt welcome a smaller number of travelling fans reducing their income on the day.'"


It would be far better to play 3 games on good Friday and 3 on Easter Monday, rather than have 2 full lots of fixtures.

Yes, the clubs need the revenue but the after effects, plus those in the actual Easter games, make a right mess of the games and more importantly, the players.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Quote: wrencat1873 "It would be far better to play 3 games on good Friday and 3 on Easter Monday, rather than have 2 full lots of fixtures.

Yes, the clubs need the revenue but the after effects, plus those in the actual Easter games, make a right mess of the games and more importantly, the players.'"


I,ve got a gut feeling that’s what they will do next season, far better quality games over the bank holidays the likely outcome.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator11184
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2332_1524951567.jpg
:DAISY: [size=100:2fjo96hf][i:2fjo96hf]Black 'n' White's Best Female 2006 & Runner Up 2007 & 2008[/i:2fjo96hf][/size:2fjo96hf] :DAISY: "We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club", A Pearson 23/09/2011:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_2332.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Trainman "To be honest (and it pains me to say it) I agree with Woolf on this one.

I don’t believe the Easter schedule is right for the game and hasn’t been for some time. Matches are too intense and players need proper recovery time.

I don’t know the stats but I’d wager more injuries than average occur around Easter and the weeks afterwards.

IMO one of the reasons we lose to Australia is fatigue due to the significant number of extra games we play.

I think it’s a shame for the fans who have booked time off work and bought tickets in advance to watch what is essentially an academy side and also unfair on Castleford who will no doubt welcome a smaller number of travelling fans reducing their income on the day.'"

I agree, at the end of the day, this is a squad game and flogging your first fit 17 when you have other players available is ridiculous. The great team of Manchester Utd in the late 90s chopped and changed between the competitions to keep legs fresh. You have a squad, use them!

RankPostsTeam
International Star17980
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: Karen "I agree, at the end of the day, this is a squad game and flogging your first fit 17 when you have other players available is ridiculous. The great team of Manchester Utd in the late 90s chopped and changed between the competitions to keep legs fresh. You have a squad, use them!'"


The flip side of this is, do the paying punters want to pay £25 to watch a reserves game ?

I'm good with using the squad depth through the season, due to injuries and suspensions etc but, having to use kids because the clubs are being asked to play with a 4 day turnaround or 3 times in 8 days is just wrong.
I agree that to a point, Woolf is doing the right thing but, it skews the competition.
Giving Cas (or anyone else) 2 easy points isn't really good for the game, is it and it's on the back of having to play too many games in too short a time frame.

Surely, as far as it can be achieved, we all want to see the best players matching up and not men v boys.

With cash getting tighter, people just wont turn out to watch

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach472
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif
:Black Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif



The decision to field a virtual academy side is just wrong even though we all know the reason why they are doing it with a semi final on the horizon.
Would football allow this to happen?
Saints should be issued with a very substantial fine for compromising the integrity of the game.
Toulouse in particular could argue that a team have been awarded 2 points and I am sure that if the Rhinos lose tomorrow we can expect to hear of their anger.
Teams may have to field weakened sides due to injury but this is ridiculous and should not be allowed to happen.
The games governing body should hang their head in shame for allowing it to happen.

RankPostsTeam
Fringe Player1219
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 20213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
78702_1663485587.jpeg
Wakefield Wildcats RLFANS Quiz Champion 2023:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_78702.jpeg



Quote: ricardo07 "The decision to field a virtual academy side is just wrong even though we all know the reason why they are doing it with a semi final on the horizon.
Would football allow this to happen?
Saints should be issued with a very substantial fine for compromising the integrity of the game.
Toulouse in particular could argue that a team have been awarded 2 points and I am sure that if the Rhinos lose tomorrow we can expect to hear of their anger.
Teams may have to field weakened sides due to injury but this is ridiculous and should not be allowed to happen.
The games governing body should hang their head in shame for allowing it to happen.'"


The only world class coach in SL is protecting his players from an absolutely shocking decision from some nobodies who run SL who have no care for player welfare. As for a virtual academy side (sic) pretty much most of them are in the first team squad

Don’t blame Saints for having such a stacked first team squad

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Quote: ricardo07 "The decision to field a virtual academy side is just wrong even though we all know the reason why they are doing it with a semi final on the horizon.
Would football allow this to happen?
Saints should be issued with a very substantial fine for compromising the integrity of the game.
Toulouse in particular could argue that a team have been awarded 2 points and I am sure that if the Rhinos lose tomorrow we can expect to hear of their anger.
Teams may have to field weakened sides due to injury but this is ridiculous and should not be allowed to happ
The games governing body should hang their head in shame for allowing it to happen.'"


It’s not an academy side our academy side play Bradford Bulls less than a day after the Castleford game. I suggest you go on the Saints website and observe who is in the first team squad for clarity.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach808
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Aug 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45114.jpg
:45114.jpg



For those moaning, ask yourselves a question - your team is top of the league, being asked to play 3 games in 8 days. You have a cup semi final the week after the third game. Would you be wanting your coach to rest the majority of the semi final squad for the 3rd game, regardless of the opposition, or would you want to flog your first choice players and risk injury/fatigue potentially costing you a cup final spot? I guarantee most would rest their first choice players. Saints have earned the right to do as they please in my opinion. Plus, anyone thinking it’s gonna be an easy game for us needs to think again. Young, fresh legs, from the best side in Superleague by a mile (and have been for the last few years) against a, potentially, fatigued side that couldn’t hold the ball on Monday if their life depended on it? I’m hopeful we’ll get the points but it’s gonna be far from easy. There’s probably a fair number of future England international players that we’ll see at our place tomorrow.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: wrencat1873 "The flip side of this is, do the paying punters want to pay £25 to watch a reserves game ?

I'm good with using the squad depth through the season, due to injuries and suspensions etc but, having to use kids because the clubs are being asked to play with a 4 day turnaround or 3 times in 8 days is just wrong.
I agree that to a point, Woolf is doing the right thing but, it skews the competition.
Giving Cas (or anyone else) 2 easy points isn't really good for the game, is it and it's on the back of having to play too many games in too short a time frame.

Surely, as far as it can be achieved, we all want to see the best players matching up and not men v boys.

With cash getting tighter, people just wont turn out to watch'"

stains have done the hard mileage at the beginning of the season to get themselves to the top so why not rest your players, I can only hope that we now use the same principle as we aren't finishing top we are very unlikely to even get into the play offs so only leaves protecting our selves from being dragged into relegation battles we have a little breathing space so use it

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11924
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30596_1286642206.jpg
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle. Frederick Douglas:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30596.jpg



It's a squad game, Saints have got themselves in a position to be able to utilise that squad as Woolf obviously thinks this is giving them the maximum opportunity to do the treble.
He's also building for the future by giving the younger players a look at what a first team game day looks like whilst he also gets the opportunity to see where they are with their development.
Some of them might have absolute stormers of a game which in turn makes the current incumbents of that position have a bit of a think about their own motivation.
I'd love my club to be in that position.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach673
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2023Dec 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
31168.jpg
For sale thirty brand new suits, made in 2007 never been worn but rather tear stained. Apply to Wigan warriors rented accommodation. 2 nil will get you a win 30 nil will get you a win 75 nil is absolute humiliation.:31168.jpg



Quote: Karen "I agree, at the end of the day, this is a squad game and flogging your first fit 17 when you have other players available is ridiculous. The great team of Manchester Utd in the late 90s chopped and changed between the competitions to keep legs fresh. You have a squad, use them!'"

Ha ha, the great m/u kept legs fresh. I could play soccer 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

RankPostsTeam
International Star17980
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "The only world class coach in SL is protecting his players from an absolutely shocking decision from some nobodies who run SL who have no care for player welfare. As for a virtual academy side (sic) pretty much most of them are in the first team squad

Don’t blame Saints for having such a stacked first team squad'"


I guess we'll see how "stacked" it is after your game at Cas ??

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



I think it is a weaker side than it would have been, but with quite a few already injured there is little room to rotate.

Grace injured
Hopoate injured
Dodds injured
MATA’UTIA injuried
Sironen banned
Hurrell banned
Knowles banned or injured
Roby getting his OAP bus pass

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Quote: Saddened! "Highly rated Pemberton isn't he? Who would you play in the halves then, presumably you're moving Lussick to 9?'"


He struggles with physicality at times so I suppose that’s why he is on the bench. Saints have 4 academy lads making their debut hopefully they do less minutes tonight.
We might see Bell at stand off and Moss at scrum half who played in our friendly against Leigh I think.
Not sure who’s full back probably Hill with Bennison going to centre.

31 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
31 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


1.74169921875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34m
Catalan Away
jonh
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
12s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
13s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
25s
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
61
32s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
39s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
55s
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
1m
Film game
karetaker
5600
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
3
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
269
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
488
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1073
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1311
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1102
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1359
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1905
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2122
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2366
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1941
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2177
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2643
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2148
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,436 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34m
Catalan Away
jonh
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
12s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
496
13s
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
25s
Fixtures 2025
Faithful One
61
32s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
39s
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
55s
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
1m
Rumours and signings v9
tyr
28893
1m
Film game
karetaker
5600
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
How many games will we win
Start@1873
1
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
3
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Start@1873
10
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
PopTart
39
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trojan Horse
18
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
269
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
488
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1251
England's Women Demolish The W..
1073
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1311
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1102
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1359
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1905
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2122
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2366
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1941
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2177
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2643
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2070
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2148


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!