I agree.

Correct.

Robbie Paul was a fantastic Bradford player and one of the best SL players of that era - however he was marginal as an international (I know 27 caps sounds a lot but it isn'y really) and not that well known in Aus.

Compare that to Mel Reilly or Neil Fox and you have to see the difference.

Of all the players currently around Gareth Ellis, James Graham and of course most notably Sam Burgess are the nearest though neither IMHO really compare with Mel Reilly or Neil Fox.

It is subjective, but one thing is for sure it needs to remain hugely exclusive to have value.

Agreed.

I agree with many of the comments just above mine, but i personally don't think the hall of fame (or we could call it something else) should just be reserved for the greatest players of all time bracket standard, i think players who have had major impact on the game over here should get recognition and it would be a great way of celebrating those players and our history.

Don't the Aussies have an Immortals team for the very, very best and to separate them and added to that a hall of fame that celebrates the best of the rest? that is what needs to be done here imo.

I'm amazed Clive Sullivan is not there as he captained GB to our last world cup final win.

The Immortals are 8 players thought to be the greatest ever by now defunct magazine Rugby League Week. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immor ... gby_league) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia ... ll_of_Fame The Hall of Fame is open to players, coaches and referees. I'm not sure who decides the membership but they both have the same players in them apart from Joey Johns who hasn't made the Hall of Fame yet. So a bit different to how you describe it Biff. They have an equivalent to the Hall of Fame and a longer list that includes non players. As an aside who would be the British coaches in a Hall of Fame? Referees?

The Immortals are 8 players thought to be the greatest ever by now defunct magazine Rugby League Week. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immor ... gby_league) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia ... ll_of_Fame The Hall of Fame is open to players, coaches and referees. I'm not sure who decides the membership but they both have the same players in them apart from Joey Johns who hasn't made the Hall of Fame yet. So a bit different to how you describe it Biff. They have an equivalent to the Hall of Fame and a longer list that includes non players. As an aside who would be the British coaches in a Hall of Fame? Referees?

Would be harsh if the likes of Burgess and Graham missed out due to the "10 years playing in UK ruling". Makes no sense as the cream of British talent should always be looking to test themselves against the best in the NRL. The HoF should be exclusive for the very best players. Like said by previous posters, club legends should be honoured by their clubs (Sinfield, Paul etc) but the Hall of Famers need to be top international players as well.

So Burgess, Graham, Peacock & Moz out of the current/recently retired players?
Who's the next back to potentially make the list? Slim pickings.....

Sinfield will be in the hall of fame, (before anyone comes up with he predictable and false he did nothing at international post) Shaun edwards is in there purely on his club reputation, he really did do nothing at international level exept knock out Bradley Clyde. and when he played down under was average at best. Andy gregory easily the better player than edwards. Morley and peacock will be in there, maybe sculthorpe but his injuries and premature end to his career may go against him. Burgess and Graham still have a lot to do before they can be considered hall of famers.

i certainly think we should do more to honor more great players, maybe a walk/roll of honor for great players but leave the hall of fame for people who transcend the game. Clive Suillivan, John Holmes (maybe) Andy gregory defo, and the others in my original post must be considered. oh kevin Ward as well.

Edwards I think got in because he was at the time (probably still is) the most decorated player in the history of the game.

You could argue Sinfield was just as inportant a cog in the Leeds machine as Edwards was in the Wigan one.

IMO neither should be in the Hall of Fame as neither excelled on the international stage to the level of the other hall of fame members.

They were great players but they didn't hit the heights of the other Hall of Fame Members. Let's not water it down because we feel we haven't put anyone in for a while.

Of the other names you mention I'd say only Andy Gregory and Clive Sullivan come close, mainly on their club and international records.

Holmes is a Leeds legend and I'd suggest your allegiance is slightly colouring your judgement. It's like me saying Trevor Foster or Keith Mumby should get in or a Leigh fan proposing John Woods as above.

They're all great players but not on the level of a Rosenfeld or a Murphy.

Morley? Won Grand Final in both hemispheres but not great for GB.

Peacock? Great domestic career. Did well internationally but doesn't transcend the game IMO.

Graham? Not won anything. He's a good player but that's it.

By all means celebrate at a club level but the Hall of Fame is special and for those that are above all others like Bevan, Fox, Boston etc.

I suspect 10 years after Burgess, Peacock, Sinfield, Sculthorpe etc have retired we'll have some context.

maybe so, Holmes is s tricky one and you could say same about cunningham senior newlove etr. but Holmes was top points scorer in 72 world cup was world cup and ashes winner and was a Gb regular player for ten years or more. think he is a contender still. John woods and tony Myler wer bothe fine /great stand offs but neither were even reguler international players.

regarding the current hall of fame not all had steller international careers, as good as Hanley was he was never really exceptional at international level, certainly not against Australia anyway. lesser players made a bigger impact.

Internationals are not the be all and end all just a part of what makes a player great. after all George best never even played in a world cup finals, and leo messi not won anything internationally.

back to my original post/point players who are eligible from the past.

Jiffy should be in before most of these named here. Sensational domestically, did the business in Australia and wasn't too shoddy at international level either.
One of the very very best all round backs in my living memory.

Does not qualify not played 10 years

I think a very high standard is just what should be maintained, so that we are looking at perhaps 3 players per decade. Of those mentioned above Clive Sullivan has a strong case. Not just a very good player and a World Cup winning captain whose individual brilliance helped get that cup but he is also made history as the first black captain of a British international side. Sometimes, OK often, we undersell RL and are the games biggest critics, but instances like this are something the sport can be rightly proud of. So, great player and historical icon, put him in!

Of the others discussed Andy Gregory certainly has a case, he was a much better player than Edwards, then again Tony Myler was, Schofield was (but he's in anyway) and Davies was but as pointed out doesn't qualify.

IMHO the Hall of Fame should be directly linked to the RL Heritage Museum and a permanent display to honour the inductees, and their achievements, to educate people on the great RL heritage (and perhaps to remind people that RL existed before, and continues to exist outside, the boundary of Super League).

Unfortunately the Heritage Museum isn't due to open at its new home in Bradford until 2020, a somewhat sad reflection about how the game portrays itself and its former players.