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| That has to go down as one of the worst decisions ever. There have been many VR decisions I haven't agreed with but with most I can understand why they came to the decision.
Greenwood changed his line and ran straight into the defender which created the gap. Should have been an easy no try decision.
It was a good game to watch however both coaches won't be happy with their defence. Could bee a costly win for St Helens with Walmsley and Wilkin going off injured.
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| Awful decision but as players they have to get on with it. They didn't and they lost. Went down fighting but didn't have enough.
Think I'd rather had seen Castleford in the semis.
Saints look clumsy and desperate.
What happened to last years guaranteed MOS after a few rounds Luke Walsh. He looked awful tonight. Boring and bad in defence. Burns hasn't looked good all season. Two players on paper should be ripping it up.
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| With the video ref, they should have to explain the decision they reach to the on field referee and give the on field ref the chance to overturn their initial decision. Decision should always go back to on field ref IMO.
Having said that, can't wait for the twitter account to explain this one. I get what everyone is saying, it appears an obvious obstruction, the run from Greenwood was dumb. But Roberts was very lazy, his fall to the floor was pathetic, he was trying to accept the penalty. Had he been even pretending to be interested in tackling Quinlan, he'd have got the penalty.
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| I would say Walsh waving his arms about every time a Saints player got tackled was equally pathetic.
Ho-hum, proud of the effort by Cas though.
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| Quote: duke street 10 "I would say Walsh waving his arms about every time a Saints player got tackled was equally pathetic.
Ho-hum, proud of the effort by Cas though.'"
add travis burns to that as well
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| Any team which scores as many points at home as Cas - and loses - only has itself to blame.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Having said that, can't wait for the twitter account to explain this one. I get what everyone is saying, it appears an obvious obstruction, the run from Greenwood was dumb. But Roberts was very lazy, his fall to the floor was pathetic, he was trying to accept the penalty. Had he been even pretending to be interested in tackling Quinlan, he'd have got the penalty.'"
Any guy going down as fast as Roberts did was never going to get to Quinlan anyway.
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| It’s a conspiracy against Cas .
Actually, no it’s not, it’s just blatant incompetence on behalf of the V.R .
When everyone can see (by the letter of the law) that’s an obstruction, why on Gods earth would it not be disallowed?
Is it a deliberate attempt to sway the result, is it purely ineptitude on behalf of the V.R, or maybe the wholehearted majority of posters are just ignorant buffoons?
Maybe the whole game is manipulated by the producers of the show .
When St’s were running away with it, Thaler gave Cas a penalty when it was quite clear Solomona was put in touch, perhaps the producer had a word in his ear.
“This is turning into a rout Ben – sort it out”
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| The video ref system is a farce.
It was initially implemented SOLELY because it would (we were told) prevent the kinds of errors we were seeing regularly by referees.
It hasn't.
In spades.
Which, I think, ranks as a failure on 100% of the criteria.
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| Quote: Mugwump "The video ref system is a farce.
It was initially implemented SOLELY because it would (we were told) prevent the kinds of errors we were seeing regularly by referees.
It hasn't.
In spades.
Which, I think, ranks as a failure on 100% of the criteria.'"
Tbf it's not bad if you take away the ones involving obstruction. They're ok overturning an on field try if they see a knock on or a foot in touch.....but give them an obstruction one and they'll go "umm, ahh....I don't think it's a try but it was sent up as one so I have to stick with it"
And you can usually tell when they aren't comfortable with the decision on field because they'll be the ones with the most replays. The Leeds try ruled out at Wigan, you could sense the VR wasn't sure of the refs on field call of no try otherwise he wouldn't have watched it over and over again.
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| And for this get rid of the VR some people suggest. Pointless if we are still airing games on TV as it won't end debates post match.
If we'd have gotten rid of the VR at the start of the year, Thaler still would've awarded that try incorrectly and people would've kicked off saying that if we'd have kept the VR that try would've been chalked off.
Now people will say that the 3/4 SL games that aren't on Sky that week manage. But then again people don't get to see several replays at slow motion when they watch highlights of the tries scored in non Sly games.
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| Quote: Gronk! "It's a regular occurrence of Cas being on the end of "dodgy" video refereeing decisions.
That's the 3rd game this year where there's been clearly wrong decisions that have outright had a massive impact on the game (Catalan early in the season, Huddersfield at Wheldon Road and tonight)'"
I feel for you mate.Your season finished on a disgrace decision like that.Powell should be calling for heads to roll, but nothing will happen.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Any team which scores as many points at home as Cas - and loses - only has itself to blame.'"
Nope, Cas had a shocker of an opening quarter granted but huge credit for their spirited comeback, i was all set for switching over at 18-0 after 15 minutes!
Also, the decision was at such a key point in the game.26-24 to cas, the try is chalked off and Cas get the penalty go down field and, who knows?, finish the game off.But the try was followed up by an immediate penalty from the restart and try to Saints and a 12 point swing in 2 minutes.The fact they still got within 4 must be an absolute choker for the Cas fans, it was all on that shocker of a call too.
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| The on field decision is the daftest thing i've seen in RL since fat nige was in charge of us
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| I know we call referee's but I think we all realise that in real time, and at pace,they will make errors. we might not be happy if it affects our side but it happens. sometimes you gain through an error.
however there is no excuse for the video referee. the idea and system is good.
but when silverwood gives such a blatantly wrong decision such as last night, with the aid of countless replays, then you have to question his competence. it boils down to two two things. his competence or his neutrality. i'd like him to come out and explain his reasoning but it won't happen.
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