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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Nothing. That is my point. If he thought he could win things, he would have stayed and not gone to the Roosters.'"


I dont think its as a simple as that. Players leave clubs all the time a variety of reasons would be the cause of that rather than a player just thinking he can win things. Maloney had 2 good years at the warriors reaching one Grand Final and then decided to move back to NSW.

It isnt pretty much accepted that even if the Warriors were the #1 side in the competition for them its a lot harder as players dont generally want to go to Auckland. I'm pretty sure they have the backers to pay the wages but players will prefer to stay in NSW and Brisbane than go to NZ.

If Tomkins decided to go the the Warriors or anyone else for that matter it doesnt mean he would be at that one club forever regardless of who it is.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: getdownmonkeyman "Nothing. That is my point. If he thought he could win things, he would have stayed and not gone to the Roosters.'"

Yeah...he never got over the GF loss with the Warriors [iALL THOSE YEARS AGO[/i icon_rolleyes.gif

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[url:15kig0eg]http://www.traditionalteacompany.co.uk/[/url:15kig0eg] [quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg



Quote: TrentBarrett "He deserves to be in the NSW squad this year he's been outstanding, and I'd agree certainly the best form I've seen from him over the past few seasons.'"


He is certainly within a shout for a spot, and especially seeing how well he and Pearce are playing together, you could argue that it would benefit the Blues to play halves that are use to playing together at club level.

Although on the downside, it will be bad for the Roosters as this year they have to back up all 3 Origin games.

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Quote: TrentBarrett "Nothing. That is my point. If he thought he could win things, he would have stayed and not gone to the Roosters.'"

Yeah...he never got over the GF loss with the Warriors [iALL THOSE YEARS AGO[/i icon_wink.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Yeah...he never got over the GF loss with the Warriors [iALL THOSE YEARS AGO[/i
It rather reaffirms the point? If he thought he had a chance of win, he would have re-signed.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "It rather reaffirms the point? If he thought he had a chance of win, he would have re-signed.'"


Yet Gareth Widdop leaves the storm for the Dragons.

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Quote: Bondi_Warrior "He is certainly within a shout for a spot, and especially seeing how well he and Pearce are playing together, you could argue that it would benefit the Blues to play halves that are use to playing together at club level.

Although on the downside, it will be bad for the Roosters as this year they have to back up all 3 Origin games.




But they do have Daniel Mortimer to replace Mitchell Pearce, and Daniel Mortimer is like Daniel Holdsworth on steroids.

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Quote: liger05 "Yet Gareth Widdop leaves the storm for the Dragons.'"


But surely. .... surely ... that is because St George will pay him a lot more than Melbourne --- carrying Slater, Cronk and Smith, plus Ryan Hoffman, under the salary cap -- could have.

You cannot blame a kid from Halifax for wanting to up his income from $150,000 a year to $650,000 a year. It''s not greed, it's just human nature to prefer the extra half a million dollars every year, win or lose.

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Does anyone know how much money Sam Tomkins is earning now at Wigan?

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Does anyone know how much money Sam Tomkins is earning now at Wigan?'"


Sam Tomkins probably does. And Ian Lenagan.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Does anyone know how much money Sam Tomkins is earning now at Wigan?'"

Wigan are paying him around £300,000 a quantity of this wage is exempt from the cap, add on his media work and it'll be a little more. I think he'd struggle to get much more than playing Union at club level but obviously international caps are worth about £20,000 to £30,000 each. I think the NRL would be more an life and rugby experience that any thing else as the money he's earning here is extremely good.

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[url:15kig0eg]http://www.traditionalteacompany.co.uk/[/url:15kig0eg] [quote="Saddened":15kig0eg]Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.[/quote:15kig0eg]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_7958.jpg



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "But they do have Daniel Mortimer to replace Mitchell Pearce, and Daniel Mortimer is like Daniel Holdsworth on steroids.'"


I like Mortimer and he has worked well as an impact player this season, however he isn't as good as either Pearce or Maloney. Besides if they both go to Origin, they will need more than just Mortimer.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: TrentBarrett "Wigan are paying him around £300,000 a quantity of this wage is exempt from the cap, add on his media work and it'll be a little more. I think he'd struggle to get much more than playing Union at club level but obviously international caps are worth about £20,000 to £30,000 each. I think the NRL would be more an life and rugby experience that any thing else as the money he's earning here is extremely good.'"


Really? Superleague cap is £1,650,000.........if you're right, he's currently on 18% of the Wigan cap and whilst he can earn very good money in the NRL, but the Aviva currently has a cap that is essentially bigger and as for French Club Rugby.....he could earn 3 times his current wage there easily.

Also, on the "one player excluded" rule in the Aviva, he could become the highest paid player on the RFU's books and not even count on the cap at all.....

NRL £4,000,000
Top 14 £8,600,000
Aviva £4,500,000 with 1 player excluded
Welsh Union £3,500,000
Irish Rugby, no cap but only 1 non Irish player allowed per province
ARU £3,000,000
South African Union no cap
NZ no super Rugby cap, provincial cap is £750,000.

I don't believe the NZ Warriors need him....we have enough talent in depth over here and it's the coaching side of things we need to sort out. If he moved to Sydney he'd be a rock'n'roll star....I reckon a move to Brisbane might be best for him.

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Quote: gutterfax "Really? Superleague cap is £1,650,000.........if you're right, he's currently on 18% of the Wigan cap and whilst he can earn very good money in the NRL, but the Aviva currently has a cap that is essentially bigger and as for French Club Rugby.....he could earn 3 times his current wage there easily.

Also, on the "one player excluded" rule in the Aviva, he could become the highest paid player on the RFU's books and not even count on the cap at all.....

NRL £4,000,000
Top 14 £8,600,000
Aviva £4,500,000 with 1 player excluded
Welsh Union £3,500,000
Irish Rugby, no cap but only 1 non Irish player allowed per province
ARU £3,000,000
South African Union no cap
NZ no super Rugby cap, provincial cap is £750,000.

I don't believe the NZ Warriors need him....we have enough talent in depth over here and it's the coaching side of things we need to sort out. If he moved to Sydney he'd be a rock'n'roll star....I reckon a move to Brisbane might be best for him.'"



I hate to agree with the idiot troll, but a move to Brisbane might be better for him than a move to Auckland, in that he would get more media attention, more club fan adoration and a better coach.

However having Sam Tomkins and Shaun Johnson in the same team, with Kevin Locke on the wing, would definitely light up the playing field at Auckland.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "I hate to agree with the idiot troll,'"


lol Bazza.....just lol icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "Really? Superleague cap is £1,650,000.........if you're right, he's currently on 18% of the Wigan cap and whilst he can earn very good money in the NRL, but the Aviva currently has a cap that is essentially bigger and as for French Club Rugby.....he could earn 3 times his current wage there easily.

Also, on the "one player excluded" rule in the Aviva, he could become the highest paid player on the RFU's books and not even count on the cap at all.....

NRL £4,000,000
Top 14 £8,600,000
Aviva £4,500,000 with 1 player excluded
Welsh Union £3,500,000
Irish Rugby, no cap but only 1 non Irish player allowed per province
ARU £3,000,000
South African Union no cap
NZ no super Rugby cap, provincial cap is £750,000.

I don't believe the NZ Warriors need him....we have enough talent in depth over here and it's the coaching side of things we need to sort out. If he moved to Sydney he'd be a rock'n'roll star....I reckon a move to Brisbane might be best for him.'"


majority of that is exempt from the cap, something i don't think hock could wrap he's head around. when signed the new contract i think it was announced at 350,000 plus add ons from the media work.

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