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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "I have no idea why you felt it was pertinent to introduce the relative merits of a team just because it defeated another team containing 7/8 players with SL experience, apart from reasons related to insecurity. On the topic of the relative merits of the AMNRL, it's clear you were ignorantly unaware that 12 USA players yesterday happen to be overseas products of Australia and all 40 points were scored by those overseas products and coached by an overseas product, hence the absurdity of your continued commitment to a conversation on the relative merits of the AMNRL and SL.'"
You dont see why it is pertinent to discuss the relative merits of one team to the team they were playing? wierd.
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| Quote: riversider82 "Can't we just celebrate the fact that a country the size of the USA has qualified for the 2013 World Cup, with several domestic players, instead of turning it into a typical "let's try and find something to moan about" RL topic?'"
No, of course not. It is very unimportant to note the level of quality of either team nor the relative quality of the home produced players to the players they were playing against.
What is important however is that an NRL fanboy makes it known he believes the NRL to be of better quality than SL.
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| How many of those players are actually from the USA? (genuine question)
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "How many of those players are actually from the USA? (genuine question)'" Probably not that many. As alluded to earlier in the thread, there is a situation in the USA at the moment where the vast majority of domestic players are not being considered for international selection because of a dispute between governing bodies. Hopefully this will be rectified in time for the World Cup.
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| Quote: headhunter "Probably not that many. As alluded to earlier in the thread, there is a situation in the USA at the moment where the vast majority of domestic players are not being considered for international selection because of a dispute between governing bodies. Hopefully this will be rectified in time for the World Cup.'"
Either way, its great that we are in a situation where RL of this level, is played between these two nations including players picked from the respective national competitions.
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| Quote: "How many of those players are actually from the USA? (genuine question)'"
Matthew Petersen (Unattached)
Sione Taufa (Maui Voyagers)
Mitchell Stevens (Gateshead Thunder)
Ryan McGoldrick (Castleford)
Michael Garvey (Aston Bulls)
David Myles (Unattached)
David Marando (Belrose Eagles)
Junior Paulo (Penrith)
Apple Pope [c] (Jacksonsville)
Mark Offerdahl (Carcassonne)
Danny Howard (Wentworthville Magpies)
Mark Cantoni (Northern Pride)
Joseph Paulo (Parramatta)
Stephen Howard (Tuggeranong Valley, ACT)
Sean Taylor (New York Knights)
Curtis Cunz (Connecticut Wildcats)
Andrew Kneisly (Aston Bulls)
Thats 6 players from the domestic competition which is a great effort.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Matthew Petersen (Unattached)
Sione Taufa (Maui Voyagers)
Mitchell Stevens (Gateshead Thunder)
Ryan McGoldrick (Castleford)
Michael Garvey (Aston Bulls)
David Myles (Unattached)
David Marando (Belrose Eagles)
Junior Paulo (Penrith)
Apple Pope [c] (Jacksonsville)
Mark Offerdahl (Carcassonne)
Danny Howard (Wentworthville Magpies)
Mark Cantoni (Northern Pride)
Joseph Paulo (Parramatta)
Stephen Howard (Tuggeranong Valley, ACT)
Sean Taylor (New York Knights)
Curtis Cunz (Connecticut Wildcats)
Andrew Kneisly (Aston Bulls)
Thats 6 players from the domestic competition which is a great effort.'"
As I've come to expect from any American team there are some brilliant names in there. Curtis Cunz and Apple Pope stand out.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Looking at the points scorers for the USA, McGoldrick and Petersen's SL experience didn't contribute. Let's take a look at the players who did contribute all 40 of USA's points yesterday...
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Steve Howard (Tuggeranong Vikings - Canberra)
David Marando (Belrose Eagles - NSW Cup & Manly/North Sydney District)
Mitch Stevens (North Sydney Bears - NSWRL)
Mark Cantoni (Northern Pride - Qld Cup, Qld Country)
David Myles (Gold Coast Chargers/Titans, Auckland Warriors, NQ Cowboys)
Danny Howard (Wentworthville Magpies, NSWRL)
Mark Offerdahl (Easts Tigers - Qld Cup)
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Joseph Paulo 6 (Parramatta, Penrith, Samoa, Australian Schoolboys)
Throw in a coach with several years recent NRL experience in Matthew Elliott and it ought to be of no surprise to anyone that the USA beat another team containing 7/8 players with SL experience.'"
Keith, you and your lists eh?
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| Jamacians only had a four day turn around after playing South Africa last Wednesday too. Gotta be a factor.
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| Quote: scarrie "As I've come to expect from any American team there are some brilliant names in there. Curtis Cunz and Apple Pope stand out.'"
Yeah looking forward to Stevo commentating on these names!
In all seriousness great for the game. A smattering of real yanks, but at a glance the RL WC now has a more of a World feel to it. Heard the Pope captain bloke speak before and he could be a real ambassador for the WC in changing peoples perceptions that these teams are totally made up of Aussies with heritage. Just need the Cedars to pull through now.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "You dont see why it is pertinent to discuss the relative merits of one team to the team they were playing? wierd.'"
It's pertinent to note your difficulty in recognising the relative merits of yet another team chocka full of Australian players qualifying for the World Cup.
Which 'chocka full of Australians' team do you think will qualify for the World Cup this coming weekend?
Lebanon? Or Italy?
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "It's pertinent to note your difficulty in recognising the relative merits of yet another team chocka full of Australian players qualifying for the World Cup.
Which 'chocka full of Australians' team do you think will qualify for the World Cup this coming weekend?
Lebanon? Or Italy?'" I don’t care, either would be a worthy addition to the world cup and it is great that even if it is only 5-10 players from the domestic competitions, they are being exposed to this level of competition. Its ok don’t worry, nobody doubts your NRL fanboy credentials they are safe, nobody doubts quite how in love you are with it.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I don’t care, either would be a worthy addition to the world cup and it is great that even if it is only 5-10 players from the domestic competitions, they are being exposed to this level of competition. Its ok don’t worry, nobody doubts your NRL fanboy credentials they are safe, nobody doubts quite how in love you are with it.'"
I'm not aware of any players in either of the Lebanon or Italy squads with SL experience, therefore it'll be much more difficult to predict the losers out of that clash.
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| Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "I'm not aware of any players in either of the Lebanon or Italy squads with SL experience, therefore it'll be much more difficult to predict the losers out of that clash.'"
So you think the NRL is much better than SL, if only you had hijacked a thread regarding the emerging nations of international RL to let us all know! Thankfully it is now clear and you have stopped hiding that little pearl of wisdom under a bushel.
Im surprised you have kept so quiet about this cutting edge insight previously.
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| Quote: scarrie "As I've come to expect from any American team there are some brilliant names in there. Curtis Cunz and Apple Pope stand out.'"
Apple Pope has a brother who also plays league. His name is Taco.
No, I'm not making that up.
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