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I'd keep the reserves and have an u19's comp for the academy players if need be instead of whatever it is now. Maybe even under 20's straight from school although that 4 year gap is huge. I don't see the issue with the current reserves system to be honest other than hearing problems about intensity.
I think promising players should be loaned to Ch clubs as often as possible.
At Warrington we have Penny who's completely wasted in the reserves but can't get a first team game, might as well go somewhere like Widnes/Leigh and have a year there.

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Quote: The Chair Maker "So you dont think having youngsters like Tomkins & Eastmond playing for leigh or Widnes would benefit the clubs.'"


No, it might offer a short term benefit to the team but in the long term I don't see it helping the club.

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Quote: queenslander "The under 20`s comp in australia is working very well, television audiences are very good and the quality and speed of the game is pleasing viewers. Recently in an australian paper they had pay tv figures and the under 20`s games were being watched by lets say 800 k people and the super 14 rugby had audiences of of 850k . The nrl must be very happy with this.

Lets hope in england that they televise it and its a winner as it is in australia, the future of the game is the youth so in my mind its a must.'"


Those viewing figures need to be divided by 10 for both super 14 and Toyota cup

Cant see it being televised if only 2 superleague games a week are actually shown now.

Needs the support structure HKB suggested to work.

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Quote: Derwent "During all of the franchising debates the pro-lobby were saying that the NL's should be vibrant competitions in their own right etc etc

Now all of sudden it seems it's ok for the Championship to merely be a SL reserves competition.

Funny that isn't it.'"


That is what the NL should be - so we have an elite league where all the other leagues acting as feeders to the elite level. The attendances in the vast majority of the NL are a joke so things can only get better if the teams are made up of SL players who cannot make the team and elite junior players learning their trade from the senior players

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If SL Clubs wanted feeder clubs, then they should form a B-team to enter into Championship One, which couldnt be promoted to the Championship, a la Castilla to Real Madrid.

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Quote: The Chair Maker "So you dont think having youngsters like Tomkins & Eastmond playing for leigh or Widnes would benefit the clubs.

I suspect gates would increase to catch a glimpse of highly promising young players. The standard of play in the championship would also increase.'"


You have already been answered by others

So unless the SL club is footing the bill then there is no benifit to the Championship clubs

Helping to develop SL players for SL clubs is counter productive to Championship clubs

The RFL wants clubs to poroduce thier own players to score browny points

Either the Championships are thier own comp in thier own right or they are a comp for feeder clubs

Nobody is going to invest in a feeder club , so if that is what they are they need funding from the relevant SL club

And the RFL are actively encouraging the Championship clubs to find investors , but then again the RFL havent a clue what they are doing from one minute to the next

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Quote: mattj13 "If SL Clubs wanted feeder clubs, then they should form a B-team to enter into Championship One, which couldnt be promoted to the Championship, a la Castilla to Real Madrid.'"


I wouldnt be opposed to this, however the championship clubs would, as they know that they would be embarrassed by the likes of Saints and Wigan reserves giving them hammerings every week.

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Quote: Starbug "You have already been answered by others

So unless the SL club is footing the bill then there is no benifit to the Championship clubs

Helping to develop SL players for SL clubs is counter productive to Championship clubs

The RFL wants clubs to poroduce thier own players to score browny points

Either the Championships are thier own comp in thier own right or they are a comp for feeder clubs

Nobody is going to invest in a feeder club , so if that is what they are they need funding from the relevant SL club

And the RFL are actively encouraging the Championship clubs to find investors , but then again the RFL havent a clue what they are doing from one minute to the next'"


How many of the championship teams run under 21/ academy sides?
Cant see any mention of any on Widnes, Leigh or Halifax websites.

I know clubs do community work, but if they are merely running a first team and nothing else then i dont see how Championship clubs can complain about the RFL wanting them to do their bit for player develoment.

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Quote: hindyscrack "

Cant see it being televised if only 2 superleague games a week are actually shown now.

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Sky in the early years of Super League used to show an hours highlights from an Academy Match each week (on a Tuesday Night if I recall) which they filmed from the venue of their live Friday Night match each week. But with most sides dropping academy curtain raisers (with the increase of ground sharing with football) and playing games at local amateur venues instead they had to stop doing it.

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kevin penny would not get in at widnes but we could do with a impact player at prop on loan.
(no offence, just are wingers are playing well)

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Quote: The Chair Maker "How many of the championship teams run under 21/ academy sides?
Cant see any mention of any on Widnes, Leigh or Halifax websites.

I know clubs do community work, but if they are merely running a first team and nothing else then i dont see how Championship clubs can complain about the RFL wanting them to do their bit for player develoment.'"


We run both a reserves and an 18's

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i should have put our instead of are, i just shot myself in the foot.

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Quote: The Chair Maker "How many of the championship teams run under 21/ academy sides?
Cant see any mention of any on Widnes, Leigh or Halifax websites.

I know clubs do community work, but if they are merely running a first team and nothing else then i dont see how Championship clubs can complain about the RFL wanting them to do their bit for player develoment.'"


Maybe that's because those competitions have not yet started

Widnes run both , Leigh run reserves but not u 18 ' because of financial constraints

Fax , I dont know yet but they did run reserves last year

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Widnes are running with 12 of the 14 Super League clubs in the Gillette Academy (Under 18s) league to start next weekend. Celtic and Catalans are the two SL clubs that aren't.

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Quote: Bilko "Widnes are running with 12 of the 14 Super League clubs in the Gillette Academy (Under 18s) league to start next weekend. Celtic and Catalans are the two SL clubs that aren't.'"

Yeah Catalans run theirs in the French Academy (and reserves in the French Elite 1) whereas Crusaders while running reserves in the SL comp, run their Under 18s in the National Youth League (although they're near the top and will probably join the SL one soon). Leigh presumably use Leigh East and Leigh Miners Rangers as U18s both of which are in the National Youth League. Halifax run no reserves, but 12 Championship clubs run them (the teams with them can be found on the RFL website under NLs), although only Widnes run U18s in the academy, but Gateshead run one in the NYL (and possibly Keighley do, not sure how close the links to the Cougar Cubs is)

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