It's not an argument, is it? Me supporting a SL club doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about Championship clubs. And you supporting a Championship club doesn't mean your opinion is stronger than mine.


I'm not telling people they should be doing anything. Show me where I have? I have offered an opinion, and I have questioned others opinions, but I haven't told anyone they should do anything.

I certainly haven't told people how they should feel. I've questioned their feelings. The reason I've done this is because some people say things that don't add up or contradict other things they've said. They can't feel two ways about the same thing, it's hypocritical.

...yet. We're only three years into the licensing system (wouldn't have really been possible or logical in the P&R system). There have been other issues for clubs to concentrate on. It hasn't been a priority.

Will I? For someone who is complaining that I tell people how they should feel and do things, you're answering questions for me! I do think there is a bit of a split in the game at the moment, you're right. The licensing system has created a bit of controversy because it was such a big decision. Any big decision creates a split in opinions. That doesn't mean it's right or wrong.
And again, you're trying to be the voice of everybody in the Championships. Newsflash, not everyone in the Championship agrees with you. Not everyone has the same feelings as you. And believe it or not, you don't actually know what's going on yourself because a lot of what you type is just cynical nonsense.

Because the games against Toulouse were generally poorly attended and lacked atmosphere , I see no reason to suggest these games will be any different , also having part time players traveling overseas doesn't work , even if it is successful , only 4 out of 20 will benefit , what about the other 16 ? , they will still just get their 13/14 games

It isn't what we need , it's just another gimmick

And as I said, it's not the fact that it's football that's obscure. Can you not see how ridiculous it is to compare two completely different quantities like they're the same?!

Again, the voice of all the fans
B*llocks do you only care about the Championships. You only care about Leigh, and if Leigh were an established SL club you wouldn't care about the Championships.

I've spoken of enough of them on a regular basis to know that not all of them agree with you. And I can guarantee you will never speak to enough of them to know that they ALL agree with you. That's pretty much all I will ever need to say about that question.

I don't want it both ways , I don't want it at all , So I'll tell you again , no money , no TV

The difference this year is that from what I have been told , the coverage will be poorer ( giving a poorer impression of the game at Championship level ) less people will receive that coverage ( but still most pubs ) , and the games will still be midweek , meaning attendances will continue to suffer , and therefore clubs will still lose money

Maybe they should try some SL games on Thursday nights to see what the SL Chairmen think of it ?

If you don't understand my point , then that's your problem , not mine , I suggest you get somebody to explain it to you

So you're complaining that you need more games, but when they offer more games you complain about that as well? What a surprise!

Will they get bigger attendances than NRC games (both here and over there)? Will it offer more to the game than the NRC?

And until we know the format of the proposed competition, I can't offer an answer to the last question. But I'd guess the format would likely run concurrently alongside the NRC in some kind of way.

Let's cut the cr*p on this one, as you'll only ever offer reasons why not to do something. Why don't you actually suggest what YOU would do? What's the solution to adding more games to the league? Let's see how credible it is and how it logically stacks up...

You do want it both ways. You want to argue both ways.

And in trying to explain that you're not contradicting yourself, you've done it again. The contradiction is that you're arguing that people watching on TV is stopping them from going to the games as a negative, but also arguing that less people will get that coverage now as a negative. If they can't get it on TV, surely they'll go to the game instead (which is what you've just argued is what is stopping them going to the game).

As I said , only 4 clubs will get these games , Leigh will be one of them , so how does that fit in with my ' Leigh ' only fixation ?

I don't know the format either , in fact I don't think the RFL know how to fit it in either , considering that the seasons don't run concurrently , and yet they have already told the clubs they are going to run it

They seem to have a habit of announcing things that they haven't sorted like more teams and competitions

I've suggested lots of things , including ways of providing more games , including actively financing more teams openly , including helping clubs with marketing themselves locally where it is most needed , it's all about raising revenue for clubs , not ' gimmicks '

No i didn't read them,what would have been the point,all your doing is repeating yourself over and over again and getting other posters to repeat themselves.
After the crusaders debacle i thought people like you had finally learned you no nothing about the game outside your bubble,how wrong was i.So now it all starts again ,the same people spouting the same rubbish.

Yes if a club is on TV , then less will attend , and the argument against this ha usually been , that the club will make more money from advertising and sponsorship [ something which I also disagree with , most Championship sponsors dont get much if any return for their support , even if it is on TV ] , with a lower profile channel , that argument doesn't stack up now

But the main issue is playing midweek , it would be interesting to see how attendances in SL would be playing thursday night on TV ?

Your point, as usual, is based upon an incorrect premise.

Premier sports is a stand alone channel, only available on Sky's EPG, with a standalone cost. For commercial customers they dont even advertise what that cost is, nor sell it through sky, you have to fanny around on the internet to find a separate number and call them direct and get a quote, because of that the amount of pubs who can screen and do screen premier sports is unbelievably low. It is a tiny tiny tiny fraction.

Leeds played Bradford on thursday the 21st of April this year, the attendance was knocking on 20k

Was that Easter ?

Yes.

And.........

Would the drive from Leeds to Bradford be too long on work night?

So thurday night at Easter is the start of a holiday , hardly like for like

Yes you were comparing football. You compared a football club playing 20+ games a season to a RL club playing 9+ games a season. It is incomparable. You know this.

I never said everyone wants to be in SL. I said you want to be. And you do, because you talk about clubs being ambitious, being cut off, a split, etc. If you didn't want to be in the SL, you wouldn't be bothered about being cut off, and would be content with being a top Championship club (which Leigh are).

...at the moment.

How does that mean this isn't a Leigh thing?

Or that the loan and dual reg system is a stepping stone to feeder clubs? Maybe it's part of a strategy? I find it ridiculous to think that just because it isn't happening now means that no-one will ever want it or consider it. If that were the case, things would never happen.