Exactly.


I'd previously thought this wouldn't work over here because its a system that can bring with it a whole load of extra politics. But you might be onto something there. Tim Sheens is part-time and a panel of selectors pick the squad. Still, if the RFL had to appoint a full time British coach tomorrow with the credentials you'd expect of someone tasked with the gargantuan job of turning round English RL, we'd be scratching around a bit. Especially now that Kear's all but ruled himself out too - rlhttps://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8374591.stmrl

A Part time coach and an unbiased selection panel would be my choice given the relatively low number of games the National side will play.

Who would we have on the selection panel is as big a question as who would be coach.

Mal Reilly springs to mind, Paul Sculthorpe, Ellery Hanley, Kris Radlinski.

Certainly not Garry Schoffield.

If the role is basically England coach for 5 games a year and some poorly defined role in 'development' then Hanley, Kear or whoever - doesn't really matter. If it's a real role in development with actual clout then the work that won't get seen for years is far more important than what anyone can realistically achieve with the current squad.

Before England can ever hope to compete against Australia they MUST have an Australian coach who will start from basics and reform the English style of play to the Australian style...Surely after 37 years England must realise they are falling further & further behind,and it wont be very long before New Zealand and maybe PNG are ranked permanently ahead of England,..they aren't even good to watch these days,they look farcical.

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Your wrong on so many different levels - are you league freak??

We need better systems, better youth policies, better core skill development, better athletic development and better continual development for those players coaches and officials with potential. But then most people already know this.

We need to understand the Aus game but if we want to beat it we need something different - not just a clone. Not everything that comes out of aus is good.

Initially we may need a good aussie coach in a development role but ultimately we need to get some bright people involved in the game and control our own future.

just give it ellery hanley and stop faffing around

Yes and no. Yes, he's wrong on many levels - no we don't [ineed[/i an Aussie coach (not even initially). We need to produce our own coaches of a standard high enough - which means giving them a shot in SL. And we need to learn once and for all to play high tempo Rugby League (in attack and defence) for 81 minutes. How long ago was it they appointent David Waite and how much progress did we make under that particular Australian?! I could be a little kinder about Tony Smith but it's the same story.

Joey - and I trust his honesty and RL brain - reckons we're every bit the match for Aus, we just can't stick it for 80 mins. And having been at practically every England/GB v Australia game, home and away for the last 20 years, I'd agree with him - rlhttps://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/same-old-story-for-hapless-poms/story-e6frext9-1225797950424rl

I know we've taken a few tw@ings over the last 10 years or so, but when we have turned up and rattled the Aussies, we've still (all but once or twice) bombed it in the last 15 mins.

well we where winning for 75mins under waite...tony smith reduced that to 60mins

How much longer are you going to faff about trying to come up with a system to beat Australia,you have buggered about for nearly 40 years with no success,you just have to do something about it,...believe me we Australians are bored to death when we play England,they aren't exciting to watch any more.....your admin just have to take their head out of the sand.

How much longer are you going to faff about trying to come up with a system to beat Australia,you have buggered about for nearly 40 years with no success,you just have to do something about it,...believe me we Australians are bored to death when we play England,they aren't exciting to watch any more.....your admin just have to take their head out of the sand...the fact that you played 4 front rowers in the final against Australia proves something is drastically wrong with the game in England. No matter what you chose to think,England are LIGHT YEARS behind us in the game.

For those that agree with you, you're pointing out the blindingly obvious and for those that don't, you're adding nothing. This thread's about a new England coach.