Spot on Donny.

I wasn’t really making a pro-TWP or anti-anyone point to be honest just pointing out that apart from a select few clubs there are few that are thriving on their own two feet and don’t have numerous issues to contend with. For what it’s worth I’m content to see how the TWP project plays out - I’m not going to get into the pros and cons as it’s been done to death but the ‘cons’ are far less than has been made out and the ‘pros’ well we shall see over the next two seasons. After that we can review but until then it is just forum fodder.

So what point was you making here then?

He was making a point of there being reasons for skepticism about
the bright future of Leigh. I understood that. Why didn't you?

There is no scepticisms at Leigh. So, (without any fabricating, like you have been doing alot of) What reasons do you have ?

The past behaviour of Derek Beaumont, as was pointed to by Notorious. I understand that. Why don't you?

I understood what happened in the [sizePAST[/size,and contracts were settled. Leigh are back on the up,and that is all that matters. Your vile dislike,and interference with Leigh, stinks of vomit.

That could be said of most heads of RL clubs. If the plug gets pulled on a certain level of funding at any club, then they're either looking for another benefactor, or going to struggle on the player recruitment front. There cannot be many self sufficient clubs in RL, so this could happen anywhere in RL.

The next TV deal is crucial, as it's of great concern to me that it will be either the same as last time, or conceivably be less. Where SL and RL is heading in the future is far too dependent on Sky for my liking. Also, the product on the field is a pale shadow of what it use to be, and I wonder if it's value to Sky has diminished, accordingly.

The game was financially rescued by Sky in the 1990's, but could so easily be cast adrift if Sky no longer receives enough revenue from our product.

Agreed.Very good point MPN.

I know what you mean Jean. DB's behaviour was not good at all towards the end of the 2018 season. He put the club up for sale, and unsurprisingly there were no takers. All the players who didn't find a new club in July '18 were treated shoddily to say the least. He has pumped a few million quid into the club, and looks like he thought 'sod it...I'm done'. Will it happen again, who knows ? But quite a few of those players from the 2018 season did re-sign for the club in 2019, so you can make of that what you want to. Basically if you own a Rugby League club, nearly all owners will lose money because of it won't they ?

as an example, Hull FC lost £300,000 last year, all out of AP's pocket.

I stated my point in my post that only a select number of clubs are self sufficient and successful. I only picked out Leigh because I was replying to a post referencing Leigh but as MorePlaymakersNeeded points out there are many clubs dependent on financial benefactors.

Okay.

London broncos received a semi-final shalocking at the hands of wigan in 2013.....david hughes was furious and onnthe point of walking away..... He was convinced by the rfl to stay but by the time that was agreed, it was too late to build a side for 2014 and we went down. If it werent for his continued £2,000,000 a year generosity london broncos wouldnt even exist any more. I dont agree with many of his decisions, but without him ans his like, the game in the uk survives purely on tv cash..... I doubt many would cope in sl if it werent for the TV cash........ Same in the NRL

Well I agree entirely with you that this TWP thing has to be fully played out to the end, but only because very few people seem to grasp that it has actually been played out and those who make the decisions have already come to a conclusion TWP agreed with. The TWP project as per Perez was to benefit the game here by developing North American players to widen the Pro-player pool and bring in extra NATV money to widen the games income at pro-level. On winning a Superleague place SL bosses declared TWP were just an anglo-aussie side owned by an Aussie wearing Canadian jerseys and nothing more. On commenting on the clubs inclusion TWP confirmed (1) They weren't going to be developing any North American players and (2) nor would they get any paying NATV deals.

How you conclude that we have to wait two seasons before making a judgement that has already been made by SL (announced publicly by McManus) and accepted by TWP (openly admitted by McDermott), well, with respect your not alone on this. What did you think was the measure of success for the TWP project that we supposedly cannot measure for another two years??. Open question to anyone who thinks TWP have made it or are on the way to doing so??