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Quote: bewareshadows "It's not really that big a change.

It's basically a 12 by 12 system. The odds of 4 teams all being relegated are close to zero. Despite people's Cynicism on here I think given a few years people will wonder what all the fuss was about.'"



the biggest problem with super league is not enough money for all the teams, so how does spreading that cash more thinly not become a problem? or how about those teams who are now going to spend more hoping they can avoid relegation? or how about the 22 rounds that are truly becoming friendlies apart from the bottom teams?

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Quote: fevfan76 "We wont know that until we see it will we. but you just keep backing up your posts with assumptions.'"


you see it every year in the challenge cup.

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Quote: dubairl " how about the 22 rounds that are truly becoming friendlies apart from the bottom teams?'"


As opposed to the current system, where you need to get into the top eight to be in the playoffs. ????

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"I've been rich & I've been poor. Rich is better." DLR:



Does this mean we'll have a 2nd set of fixtures drawn after 23 rounds? Can't see that going wrong, I mean how difficult could it be to arrange a trip to Catalans or Tolouse at a few days notice...in August.

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Quote: dubairl "you see it every year in the challenge cup.'"


what the bottom of super league beating the top of championship. No not really. Fevs last 3 challenge cup games

beat Castleford
lost to wigan 30 -16 (hardly a pasting)
Just lost away to London

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Quote: fevfan76 "As opposed to the current system, where you need to get into the top eight to be in the playoffs. ????'"


im not arguing to keep the old format but what i am saying is this new one is just as flawed if not a lot more. Top 4 and if we have to have relegation to keep the championship clubs happy just bring back normal promotion and relegation 1 team a season. At least RFL maybe able to financial afford to subsides one team a year in the championship.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Sigh, you originally stated that the bottom teams had better start to perform, otherwise they will be playing the top Championship teams.

All I’m saying is, four SL teams will have to, even if all twelve SL clubs finished on equal points!

As to not playing the game, what’s that got to do with the price of fish?'"




I completely get what you say,i don't think you do though, 4 teams will play 4 championship teams because they are the worst 4 and deserve it.

4 championship teams will play these bottom 4 because they DESERVE too.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Yes I’m as giddy as a kipper, especially with such jeopardy of four SL sides & four Championship sides playing a mini league, I couldn’t possibly guess the outcome.'"


Well no you couldn't, someone who has played and been on the end of a "good hiding" by a so called "lesser" team would not write something like this.

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Quote: Saint Simon "Yes, but a lot more games for people to pay for.
Currently teams such as widnes get £167 for 13 games from their fans. On the new system lets say they get 11 games for £150 or there abouts, but now widnes are guaranteed another 3 home games, that's 3 x £20 or there abouts. Even if attendances half in these games, the average income from fans goes from £167 - £ 180 plus all extra revenue from food etc'"



Half, that's been optimistic. 7 weeks in a row it's pay on a gate. You have a family of four, how the hell do you think families will pay for this? Playing in front of half empty stadiums, wow that's progress!!!

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Quote: Wildmoose "Does this mean we'll have a 2nd set of fixtures drawn after 23 rounds? Can't see that going wrong, I mean how difficult could it be to arrange a trip to Catalans or Tolouse at a few days notice...in August.'"


Break for internationals anyone? eusa_think.gif

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Quote: fevfan76 "what the bottom of super league beating the top of championship. No not really. Fevs last 3 challenge cup games

beat Castleford
lost to wigan 30 -16 (hardly a pasting)
Just lost away to London'"


haven't you also just said fev have won the championship for the last 2 years or something?

ok so you beat one super league team in 3 attempts and lost to possible the worse super league side for the past 10 years last year hardly a solid argument.

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Quote: Bovrick "Break for internationals anyone?
what the RFL are expect to plan for internationals as well jesus don't they deserve a break at some point. icon_twisted.gif

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Quote: fevfan76 "we'll see'"


Your excitement is understandable after years of been refused a place at the top table, however, unless the S.C chasm between S.L & Championship isn’t vastly reduced I just can’t see how it will happen.

You can’t use a friendly against Wakey & a cup upset against Cas as proof positive.

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Quote: dubairl "im not arguing to keep the old format but what i am saying is this new one is just as flawed if not a lot more. Top 4 and if we have to have relegation to keep the championship clubs happy just bring back normal promotion and relegation 1 team a season. At least RFL maybe able to financial afford to subsides one team a year in the championship.'"

Quote: dubairl "haven't you also just said fev have won the championship for the last 2 years or something?

ok so you beat one super league team in 3 attempts and lost to possible the worse super league side for the past 10 years last year hardly a solid argument.'"


Wait, what?

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Quote: dubairl "what the RFL are expect to plan for internationals as well jesus don't they deserve a break at some point.
Deserve? Meh, this is a business. If we weaken the product too much it'll cost us. Do what Smokey said earlier, limit the number of games a player can participate in instead; or equivalently enforce a minimum number of games for academy players (to the extent that top players should have to be rested) or something.

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Quote: dubairl "haven't you also just said fev have won the championship for the last 2 years or something?

ok so you beat one super league team in 3 attempts and lost to possible the worse super league side for the past 10 years last year hardly a solid argument.'"



But it doesn't back up yours does it. End of the day you can only assume SL teams will win.

Until it happens we dont know

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